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ALERT: Meal Mart & Mon-Cousine open up while heating-DON"T USE in a non-kosher microwave
Some microwaved "shelf stable" meals are intended to be heated even in a Treif microwave, but they may open because of the high intense heat & may render the product non-kosher.
The Meal Mart, Mon cousine ones did not hold up & burst, the LaBriute, kosher Gourmet "& others" held up completly intact-all of the seals, box, outer packaging.
People have tried the MEAL MART / Mon Cousine ones in hospitals last week and all of them opened, making them not kosher.
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The same problem occurs withthe frozen meals. This occurs with many brands including Meal Mart.
This happens at hospitals, hotels, etc. itis much safer to heat them in oers while wrapped in alumunim foil.
The comapanies have to invest in better seals
just double wrap
put in shopping bag
r u only saying thqt b/c halberstam of la briute doesn't live far from u? is he your friend?
I tested yesterday and that was the results. Friends sometimes do thing right also.
The hashgochos will probably argue that they are not mechuyev to make them treif oven proof, that they are intended for kosher ovens, or some other cop out terutz.
I don't know about now, but about 18 years ago, BMG's mashgiach gashmi R' Binyomin Finkelstein used to get donations of airline meals.
I wonder if it's possible that some could be heated and put back in stock if no one eats it.
These are the "shelf-stable-meals" not the airline or hospital meals.
They are for travelers and intended for a Treif microwave as well.
There was a different shayla by the airplane meals that R" Binyomin used to shaf. These frozen entrees were 2 years past the expiry date. They were so old that the chicken wings disintegrated in your fork and the carrots had turned white.
It's hard to blame anyone because the yeshiva had no money in those days. They even shnorred pocket change from yungerleit some days to pay for lunch.
But is it shayech to mach a brocho on the stuff?
Not true. FAA regulations require an expiration date of 30 days from production. RBF would get meals that were just a week or 2 past the date, they were actually pretty good.
the oilam says that 1 LaBriute meal is enough for a 2 week trip.
eat it the first day & you won't be able to eat for 2 weeks....
FAA regulations do not apply outside the airline industry but it was probably a shogeg oversight of State or County health regulations.
The meals were not always 2 years old but they sometimes were. Excuse the play on words but those real old ones were not fit for human consumption, they were fit for Mendel the Mouse. Vehamyvin yovin.
"they were fit for Mendel the Mouse. Vehamyvin yovin."
Very funny! (for those who got it)
The "yekie" exterminator was called "achrei-mous".
dont badmouth airline meals -- its the only hot meal you get in a week or two of travelling. its delicious. (otherwise ...)
of course, today, there a no / little airline meals. only transatantic, and international.
2. if they advertise it as a "shelf stable, heat and serve kosher", then it better be "shelf stable heat and serve kosher".
It is only Treif if after it has opened the microwave walls were Maziah and were Yad Soledes.
The one time I did use Meal Mart it did not open.
" Friends sometimes do thing right also." kudos to you , reb yudel, for that very wonderful line! Despite the fact that i think you are right top on most kashrus issues, that was great!
I use it on a regular basis. It doesn't open up if you follow the instructions printed. You need to set the microwave on medium not longer than1 minute 1/2. The problem is most people don't read or know how to use equipment setting. There is a power button on most microwaves.
Don't use alumunim foil in a microwave its dangerous. You may use a paper bag instead.
It doesn't open if you don't close microwave door. Meal Mart tested it & it didn't open-cause it wasn't plugged in.
Only the shelf stable meals need 1-2 minutes, the frozen "mon-cousine" say on the package ON HIGH FOR 7-9 MINUTES & it bursts- it's not kosher
Thank you for highlighting this problem. It occurs with almost all frozen meals. If you try it with a microwave at the recommended time, the seals break open. I have had this issue in the hospital and at hotels when attending a conference.
In addition, the mon cuisine which comes in box has only one chasima once it is out of the box. Since no one warms it up in the box, it is not usable in a non kosher setting. These meals are marketed to non kosher facilities.
Pressure should be put on the manufacturers either to improve the situation or clearly mark the meals for use in kosher ovens only.
A tichtiga manufacturer should market itself as the only brand with a durable seal for non-kosher microwaves
Has anyone seen the full page ads that Baron Herzog is running to farkoif themselves as one of the few kosher choices of big shot secular wine critic Daniel Rogov?
Isn't the Serdehel Ruv from Mount Kisco giving hashgocho on some selections alongside the OU? Rogov was already nikra mess while alive, a chazir fresser who wrote in Haaretz about succulent pork he savored at treif Israeli restaurants which is also a violation of Israel's secular laws.
This is not so far removed from allegations made on this blog that Baron Herzog uses chometzdik seals on wine barrels.
The ad might even be dishonest. It makes it sound like Rogov only gave his 5 star "World Class" designation to a handful of wineries, both kosher and goyish. The truth might be that he more often rated goyish wines as better. Some wine stores have a copy of Rogov's book laying around. Please report back on any findings.
Well, had I been there, I would have given a little flick of the finger to get the chazir off of Rogov's plate.
I checked out that ad in Larry Gordon's 5 Towns Jewish Times for Rabbi Dr. Israel Levinger certifying Eddie's Tours. That's very interesting that the mashgichim are Conservative rabbis because the hashgocho symbol says the word "mehadrin".
Larry also took money to run an ad for the YIVO institute in Manhattan giving classes.
How dare Larry promote those Yiddishists and their heretical agendas.
http://www.yivo.org/events/index.php?tid=183&aid=901
The next class is to promote the old secular Communist filosof and apikoros Dr. Chaim Zhitlowsky. His father Yosef was a Lubavitcher who learned in Volozhin but left learning after being influenced by the Haskoloh.
Chaim Zhitlowsky traveled the world as a missionary for Marxism and debated frumma Yidden to turn them against Torah umitzvos.
But Larry & Yochanan Gordon are just fine with all that. It's Rav Schach ztl that is that is the problem in their krumma minds.
http://www.facebook.com/groups/SaveSinaisKids/
please join! this is mamash pidyon shvuyim, hatzalas nefashos, 4 times rubashkin, all in one. this is 4 kids here in lakewood 3 go to bais feiga. Yudel any ideas how to help??
http://fivetowns.patch.com/articles/police-man-stole-125-000-worth-of-cardboard-from-lawrence-supermarket
A Barnum Island man was arrested Monday afternoon after allegedly stealing more than $125,000 worth of cardboard from a Lawrence supermarket over the course of 10 months.
According to Nassau County detectives, Warren Parke, 64, took approximately 1,000 bales of cardboard valued at more than $125,000 from Brach's Supermarket, located at 11 Lawrence Lane, between April 1, 2011, and Feb. 16, 2012.
Parke was observed on surveillance video on many occasions loading the bales into a box truck, police said. Parke was also observed on surveillance video by backing a truck into and damaging a security gate located at 315 Central Ave., in Lawrence, on separate occasions.
Parke is being charged with grand larceny in the second degree, two counts of criminal mischief in the third degree and aggravated unlicensed operation. He will be arraigned at First District Court in Hempstead on Tuesday
http://fivetowns.patch.com/articles/police-father-charged-in-daughters-poisoning
315 Central Ave is also a heimishe gesheft, Amazing Savings. What's pshat they are getting picked on so much? A few months ago, an Arab drove there and tried to poison his own daughter to death.
http://fivetowns.patch.com/articles/police-man-stole-125-000-worth-of-cardboard-from-lawrence-supermarket#photo-9321512
Did you see the picture of the goniff arrested at Brach's? Put an uphat on him and he looks like a rosh yeshiva. There were also two arrests made at Costco in Lawrence for stealing boxes. Paper is worth a lot of money these days.
WHY CANT YOU JUST KOSHER THE MICROWAVE B4 BY CLEANING THROUGHLY THEN BOILING A CUP OF WATER FOR 3-4 MINUTES?B4 WARMING UP THE MEAL THAT SHOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN CASE THE CONTAINER OPENS UP
Kasher a "ben-yoi'moi"?
Kasher plastic?
etc.
Check it out. There is a divorced yungerman OU mashgiach from a foreign country who started a business to export food to America. The OU is allowing the huge conflict of interest that he can be mashgiach on his own food company.
"Check it out".
How should we check it out if you don't give us any hints.
"There is a divorced yungerman OU mashgiach.."
What does his marital status have to do with his ability to give a hashgacha?
"The OU is allowing the huge conflict of interest that he can be mashgiach on his own food company".
Can you tell us if you brought this up with the OU, and what their response was?
Their e-mail: kosherq@ou.org
Le'toeles, can you tell us the name of his company?
Badchan, do you really think the OU will address such questions seriously?
I got this info from a kashrus insider who wants Yudel to investigate it. He thinks that is enough info to find out from people who have yedios of OU & food operations who the mashgiach is.
Le'toeles, can you tell us the name of his company?
On this site there are NO Le'toeles comments. The original articles are MAYBE Le'toeles but the Comments - NEVER were and never will be.
There is only ONE Nudnik who keeps harping that the comments here are never toyelessdik. And that's because plenty of them expose his fraudulent operation.
Nudnik, since your boss is also high up in the OU, why dont you just ask him as he can surely find out even if that mashgiach is not under him?
Yes please contact the OU so that they know who knows about it which will make it easier to shut you up and stop the facts from getting out.
Someone from Queens Vaad is writing the encouragement because that's how he runs things over there
Yeah tell the OU what you know about internal scandals. They did a "job" on the Le Marais mashgiach over it and even worse in the Bronx. The mashgiach who blew the whistle at Montefiore is on welfare & food stamps after the OU fired both him & his wife in retaliation. They also tried to ban him from davening in the shul at the adjacent YU campus
http://www.oukosher.org/index.php/consumer/alerts
seems like the ou is listening
Kashruth Advisory: Mon Cuisine frozen meals
Products:Mon Cuisine frozen meals
Company:Alle Processing
Issue:When warming Mon Cuisine frozen meals in a microwave, consumers should double wrap the carton. Mon Cuisine is changing its packaging to alleviate this issue by overwrapping the carton
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