Alledgedly a NY based Chasideshe kashrus agency wished to make an unannounced visit. Rav Weismandel instructed not to allow them in. That outcome would have been devastation to him, so he preempted with the resignation.
BTW-What is a chasideshe Shechita? What is a Yeshivishe Shechita? What is a Shechita Mehuderes? Evidently they are not the same.
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Spotlight on the Queens Vaad
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So what are the Queens Vaad chuchumim going to do now about Agri in their stores? Mistumma ess passt nisht that there is only OU from this Vaad who tells people they like Galil better than Empire because it's not just OU, tze duch Star K (no extra charge for the entertainment)
Veissmandel's letter is short on details. He doesn't tell you that the same Rubashkin front company as Tevye's is also Stonehill Group and the stuff being peddled off of unmarked trucks with the blessing of the Queens Vaad where the truck drivers make up any labels they want for the meat.
The stuff being peddled off of unmarked trucks with the blessing of the Queens Vaad where the truck drivers make up any labels they want for the meat, also may be plain kosher or non.... You never know.
I would strongly advise you to be careful what you post about the Queens Vaad? This is a public forum and besides the halachic end of the deal there are legal issues that you have no idea waht you are spreading.
The threat level has escalated from boilerplate warnings of saying anything about us is mechayev burning in gehinem to a veiled threat that the Queens Vaad will take action with lawyers and secular court (we are above beis din and halacha just like we do anything we want in kashrus or to disturb the peace of those who passed away long ago but had the misfortune of being buried in cemeteries under Queens Vaad auspicies)
But it's ironic that the Queens Vaad passes the buck on the suspicious Rubashkin trucks to Veissmandl who is himself the target of legal threats by the new baal habus in Postville.
I want to apologize for being so nasty and un-menschlich. Iy'h if the future I will try to behave and use normal channels to convey my grievences. Bli neder.
The comment written last night at 8:32 pm is a forgery from a Queens Vaad insider who has been trying to discredit any criticism of them from day one, whether from comments on the internet to rabbonim and gedolei Torah who take issue with them.
Rabbi Shain, Your comment section is becoming a "day care center". The kids are having a grand time. With the children accusing each other of "he hit me first and your lying" and claiming that everyone is lying, this section is a "chucha v'telula".
Will you please check out who is impersonating me! They keep on denying my accusations and belittling me and my contructive critisim. They are also maching avek with all the gedolim's opinions and pesokim.
Ziyuf is nothing new for the mushchossim at the Queens Vaad who claimed at one point that Rav Elyashev actually agreed they could dig up kivrei yesomim to sell to freye Russians.
It's not clear if any lie or forgery is past them.
We have all seen the letter from Rav Elyashev not only assering the Queens Vaad but ordering them to use their millions in dirty profits to restore the kevorim they destroyed.
And ask R' Moishe Handler about how Elchonon Zohn went to Maran 3 days in a row to get him to change his mind culminating in Zohn being thrown out when he was caught lying.
The only stomach ache is at the Queens Vaad because they absolutely hate being exposed.
The letter has already been posted on this website twice. Go read the Jewish Image Magazine articles online and you will see a copy of it.
It makes no sense that Rav Elyashev or anyone would be matir bizayon mesim and R' Moishe Handler and others were anyway mayid the Queens Vaad were lying.
It's you Queens Vaad reshoyim who don't address anything in a normala oyfan. First you lie in the name of the gadol hador, then when you get caught and there is a letter against you, you suddenly try to mach Rav Elyashev avek that he has no business poskening on inyanei Queens.
You talk about hate (that you deserve)? What about your love for the almighty dollars that you line your pockets with from David Jacobson? The IRS filings show how much shvartz gelt you get for collaborating.
You think that yesomim from over 100 years ago have no one to speak up for them when you dig them up for profit. Maybe we should get UOJ involved and mail an information packet to all of your clients.
Vaad to expose the Queens Vaad says ..get UOJ involved... Here is a classic: "Motzo Min es Mino" and " Lo l'chinom holach ha'orev aitzel ha'zarzir". Who is exposing who?
Alledgedly a NY based Chasideshe kashrus agency wished to make an unannounced visit. Rav Weismandel instructed not to allow them in. That outcome would have been devastation to him, so he preempted with the resignation.
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So what are the Queens Vaad chuchumim going to do now about Agri in their stores? Mistumma ess passt nisht that there is only OU from this Vaad who tells people they like Galil better than Empire because it's not just OU, tze duch Star K (no extra charge for the entertainment)
Veissmandel's letter is short on details. He doesn't tell you that the same Rubashkin front company as Tevye's is also Stonehill Group and the stuff being peddled off of unmarked trucks with the blessing of the Queens Vaad where the truck drivers make up any labels they want for the meat.
Could you explain how your story makes sense?
Rubashkin never let anyone in. Does Hershey have a more open policy where Weissmandel would be exposed?
The stuff being peddled off of unmarked trucks with the blessing of the Queens Vaad where the truck drivers make up any labels they want for the meat, also may be plain kosher or non.... You never know.
Whether you like Empire or not, they allow unannounced visits.
I would strongly advise you to be careful what you post about the Queens Vaad? This is a public forum and besides the halachic end of the deal there are legal issues that you have no idea waht you are spreading.
Why is nothing a surprise anymore?
The threat level has escalated from boilerplate warnings of saying anything about us is mechayev burning in gehinem to a veiled threat that the Queens Vaad will take action with lawyers and secular court (we are above beis din and halacha just like we do anything we want in kashrus or to disturb the peace of those who passed away long ago but had the misfortune of being buried in cemeteries under Queens Vaad auspicies)
http://www.lakewood246.com/news/5330/rabbi-weissmandl-gets-threatened-by-rubashkin-for-removing-hashgacha.html
But it's ironic that the Queens Vaad passes the buck on the suspicious Rubashkin trucks to Veissmandl who is himself the target of legal threats by the new baal habus in Postville.
I want to apologize for being so nasty and un-menschlich. Iy'h if the future I will try to behave and use normal channels to convey my grievences. Bli neder.
The comment written last night at 8:32 pm is a forgery from a Queens Vaad insider who has been trying to discredit any criticism of them from day one, whether from comments on the internet to rabbonim and gedolei Torah who take issue with them.
Rabbi Shain,
Your comment section is becoming a "day care center". The kids are having a grand time.
With the children accusing each other of "he hit me first and your lying" and claiming that everyone is lying, this section is a "chucha v'telula".
Will you please check out who is impersonating me! They keep on denying my accusations and belittling me and my contructive critisim. They are also maching avek with all the gedolim's opinions and pesokim.
Now we have an impersonator at 10:38 am who is taking our side against the Vaad.
We appreciate the support, but please don't use our screen name.
R' Shain was the rav hamachsir at the lakewood dinner Sunday night.
Cards left on the tables stated:
Yoshon
Bishul Yisroel
Poultry- Nirbatur/ Hisachdus
Cornish Hens- Nirbatur, David
Elliot (they were split- in David Elliot kosher tradition)
Beef- Alle, Nirbatur
Veal- Alle, Nirbatur
Wines & liquor- KAJ/OU/OK/ Kehila lists
Romaine lettuce- Positiv
I thought Rabbi Shain has a problem with David Elliot because of Lubavitcher shochtim.
Or was this from a special production run when the Nirbater goes in there?
Yes a monthly production by the nirbarter with his own shoichtim.
Spotlight etc.
I thought you apologized.What happened?
It looks like today is forgery day
on Yudel's site.
Ziyuf is nothing new for the mushchossim at the Queens Vaad who claimed at one point that Rav Elyashev actually agreed they could dig up kivrei yesomim to sell to freye Russians.
It's not clear if any lie or forgery is past them.
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Tue Feb 16, 01:28:00 PM 2010
You DON'T know that he did not say it.
Does R' Yudel recheck the Postiv romaine himself? Is the new Bodek greenhouse romaine lettuce reliable?
We have all seen the letter from Rav Elyashev not only assering the Queens Vaad but ordering them to use their millions in dirty profits to restore the kevorim they destroyed.
And ask R' Moishe Handler about how Elchonon Zohn went to Maran 3 days in a row to get him to change his mind culminating in Zohn being thrown out when he was caught lying.
One Belly ache using the next to prove his point.
If you have the letter, post it.
Yet the "you don't know that he did not say it" line has not been addressed in a reasonable fashion.
No surprise, the hatred seeps through once again as usual.
The only stomach ache is at the Queens Vaad because they absolutely hate being exposed.
The letter has already been posted on this website twice. Go read the Jewish Image Magazine articles online and you will see a copy of it.
It makes no sense that Rav Elyashev or anyone would be matir bizayon mesim and R' Moishe Handler and others were anyway mayid the Queens Vaad were lying.
It's you Queens Vaad reshoyim who don't address anything in a normala oyfan. First you lie in the name of the gadol hador, then when you get caught and there is a letter against you, you suddenly try to mach Rav Elyashev avek that he has no business poskening on inyanei Queens.
You talk about hate (that you deserve)? What about your love for the almighty dollars that you line your pockets with from David Jacobson? The IRS filings show how much shvartz gelt you get for collaborating.
You think that yesomim from over 100 years ago have no one to speak up for them when you dig them up for profit. Maybe we should get UOJ involved and mail an information packet to all of your clients.
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Tue Feb 16, 10:41:00 PM 2010
speaks for itself.
Thank you mr. exposer
Vaad to expose the Queens Vaad says
..get UOJ involved...
Here is a classic:
"Motzo Min es Mino" and
" Lo l'chinom holach ha'orev aitzel ha'zarzir".
Who is exposing who?
UOJ got child molesters put in jail after corrupt rabbonim covered up for them to let them keep being mazik children.
It's good to see which side his detractors are on. It's not on the side of Torah and humanity.
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