There are some Shechitas that do only a Bedikas "pnim" on lamb, they do not do a bedikas "chutz".
The kosher consumer should refrain from using from those shechitas that don't do a proper bedikas chutz as well. Do your inquiries.
Sunday, January 09, 2011
Kashrus alert: Does Lamb require a "bedikas chutz"??
There are some Shechitas that do only a Bedikas "pnim" on lamb, they do not do a bedikas "chutz".
The kosher consumer should refrain from using from those shechitas that don't do a proper bedikas chutz as well. Do your inquiries.
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1st of all the minhag kmaseh is not to do bedikas chutz, yes there is the smach, and yes there is R' Moshe teshuva BUT SEE Beis Dovid Yesod Hbayis siman 39 sif beis sif kaytan 4 .....
2nd of all I am unaware of any shchitas currently not doing bedikas chutz, Alle. international? Rosenblatt Ruppersburger, Berig.....
I dont know about the lubab shechitos though.........
#1-Yes. Lamb requires bedikas chutz.
#2-instead of beating around the bush,say what you have to say.
Reb Yudel
Why don't you just say who does bedikas chutz and who doesn't.
"Do your inquiries"...
Why is it my achrius ?
Am I a ruv ?!?
Am I a rav hamachsher ?
If it has a hechsher, why am I obligated to do "bedika" on them ?!?!
Likes to eat...
Nowadays,you must do bedikas chutz. The reason is depending where they are raised,and the time of year,lamb can have a yield after bedika of only 5-10% because of disease.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/10/technology/personaltech/10ces.html
Will they give their Yomtov "hechsher" to induction surfaces?
"A counter using inductive power to create heat, so a can of chicken noodle soup can be prepared on the spot."
does anyone even eat lamb today except for sephardim who like to barbeque it?
Alle's response: Since I am not a cattle grower, by us all of these animals are called lamb, for which we always do bdikas chits, by a boidek chits.
10:02 you are probably referring to white veal, the calves yield is low. Lamb runs between 75-90 percent everywhere without exception, with very seldom extenuating circumstances.
you clearly dont mean lamb
Where's the nosei degel of R' Shlomo Zalman Auerbach ztl? This is so sick that it makes me wonder if Star K is doing even less than turning on a light bulb for bishul:
In the book The Colors of Jews (Indiana University Press), author Melanie Kaye / Kantrowitz estimates that 20,000 to 30,000 marriages between Jews and African-Americans grew out of the civil rights movement.
Likes...
Yes, I do mean lamb. I can not recall the medical term, but there is a disease that effects lamb certain times of the year; mostly in texas.
If you can get 75-90% kosher all year long,then you are "da man" !
i dont understand, dont other hasgavhas ie harvey senter over at the kof k also rely on the light bulb heter?
No!
Chof K uses a special glo bar that turns red hot like fire and gives off significant heat. They asked Rav Elyashev before implementing it.
10:02
I am unaware of such a disease, perhaps during those times there is a reiasah and therefore more of a reason to do bedikas chutz. I am not anti bedikas chutz, personally i am machmir, but the point is that the minhag haolam is not to do it. Recently there has been a move to change that...and the hasgachas are shtelling tzu.
defiently if you are working at at time of place where you have 90% treifos you should do bedikas chutz.
ou very now the senters are blaming their heterim on Rav Elyashiv, get real."if there is a heter its could enough to me"
Does R' Yudel have any information if Chof K actually cleared glo bar with RYSE or if this is just the Chof K's word on it? I thought Chof K was the only national hashgocho that doesn't lie and cover up.
Likes...
The reason you need bedikas chutz is NOT for the sercha's; it is because the offal i.e.the organ meat is infested with disease.
Kol Tuv and have a good shabbos !
http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/news/features/1007_krill.html
R' Yudel, back to krill. The Federal NOAA Agency says here that they are bedavka fed to farmed salmon. What percentage of salmon intestines would that be?
I was also discussing with a rov about anchovies. In cases that they are not gutted, it should be investigated what they eat as this fish is very small. This could be a problem for Worcestershire sauce which is made from anchovies and zicher when eaten whole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_sprat
In some northern European countries what are called anchovies are actually another species of fish known as Sprats or Brisling Sardines.
worcestershire sauce
the OU doesn't tell you when it's marked "pareve" that they are going with a kulah. years ago they used to mark it "OU Fish"
02:00:00 PM 2011
They still mark it 'ou fish'.
Not all sauces have fish in it (or not enoughfish)
Organ meat is tongue, tail, liver spleen/milt fry/beitzim I've see a lot of bedikas on lamb and have seen the bnei maim and have not seen disease as a matter of fact, in MANY plants the usda inspector doesn't bother coming on to the floor during the lamb processing aside to stamp the meat because the occurrence of disease is so minimal
this is from the ou daf hakashrus in november
Q: I see a plain U on a Wo rcestershire
sauce, but when
I loo ked at the ingredient
panel, I noticed that anchovies
are listed. Can I use it on
my grilled meats?
It is the opinion of the OU poskim that
fish can be batel beshishim. For this reason,
Worcestershire sauces containing a minute
amount of fish are labeled as U Pareve
(or plain U ). Worcestershire sauces with
fish greater than shishim are always labeled
U FISH. However, many OU BBQ sauces containing
fish are being labeled as U FISH, even
when the fish is batel. This is to alert consumers
who are machmir, as they might not
have otherwise known that it contains fish.
Likes...
The disease effects the liver.
As for the inspector,he should be standing next to the bodek so he can look at the "guts" as they are pulled out and to give a quick look at the carcass for any feces or other residue.
the beis dovid discusses isect infestation in the liver of lamb....... ive see thousands of lamb liver's i have never seen on that looks dieseased. I have seem many thousands of beef livers and many of them have had abscess etc on them and the usda through them out..... the inspectors are never around to exmaine the lamb "guts"
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