Don't rely on "Quality Farmers Market" Lakewood/Howell
Kashrus Alert: The "Quality Farmers Market"Lakewood / Howell, NJ refuses to abide by the kashrus guidelines of their
Hashgocha Satmar Dayan Klein
Therefore don't rely on anything as being under the hashgocha.
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Rav Mordechai Bezalel Klein Dayan di'Satmar gives a hashgocha on the packaged items, which are known to be infested according to those in the know, e.g. Rav Moshe Vaye, etc
Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Elyashiv Shlita had some very harsh words regarding sheitels, stating the women who wear them are as if they go outdoor bareheaded.
The Rav repeated over and over again the severity of the isur of wearing sheitels, which the wife and her husband share equal responsibility.
Queens County Civil Court Index Number: CV-089191-09/QU Case Name: ALLE PROCESSING CORP. vs. KOTIMSKY & TUCHMAN OF NASSAU LTD BOXER, GABRIEL
Very interesting that Pomegranate would have hired Gabe Boxer after he stiffed Alle because Alle reportedly owns part of the supermarket.
In any case, Boxer was recently let go like most upper level Pomegranate employees eventually are. What Pomegranate does is work them almost to death for 80 to 100 weeks to suck all the yedios and usefullness out of them. When they have been totally sucked dry, Pomegranate gets rid of them and moves on to a replacement worker that can be had for half the salary.
Is Queens Vaad dray kop Chaimel Schwartz who is the biggest expert in taking things out of context to further his agendas and not providing links to his "sources".
Chaimel, while you've been very busy not listening to Maran Rav Elyashev's psak to restore the destruction of kivrei yesomim by your Queens Vaad and while you distort his psak about wigs to take cheap shots at your opponent, have you said a single kappitel Tehillim for the gadol hador who is suffering organ failure? Or are humanitarian gestures bichlal not part of the VHQ job description?
But it's "like Vaad, like client". If the Queens Vaad alein goes sticking it's grubby paws in the 5 Towns area to take business away from that Vaad hakashrus, then the clients have a "good" example to follow.
Watch out for Gabe Boxer! It's not just Alle he didn't pay. He has a long history of taking from vendors and not paying.
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And he didn't pay his electrician or his credit card bills to Discover & Chase.
Of course Rav Elyashev zolt er zein gezunt only assered prusta ones. But the spinmeister at the Queens Vaad thinks he can get away with LYING that all were assered because he then thinks in his farshtunkena thought process that the Queens Vaad can get away with ignoring RYSE on kivrei yesomim because the gantz velt doesn't listen about something else.
Anything that C.S. from VHQ says is suspect because he's always spinning his wheels in the same direction.
I saw today the most disgusting looking figs from Turkey. Dirty, rotting and pashtus infested. There was a big Star K on the box and they are sold in a supermarket under a hashgocho that should know better.
That Star K shamelessly takes money even for garbage like this is a new low.
R' Yudel, a rov who knows kashrus very good told me he agrees with you on a lot of things but doesn't agree about all dried dates. He said he checked many of the high end California ones and never found a single bug.
have you said a single kappitel Tehillim for the gadol hador who is suffering organ failure?
If anybody said Tihillim or not you'll never know. But we DO know that you, Spotlight, had no time time to pray to your ...... because your surfing all court cases to see if any of your "good friends" are involved. The fact that Mauzone won the case, you conveniently omitted. Aye. Its just another nail in your 'religion-hater' personality. Which by now the world already figured out.
FYI Mauzone is under the OU NOT VHQ. Boxer is nolonger at Pom. He is currently setting up the Gourmet Glatt in the old FRIEDMAN'S in Boro Park (13 ave 39 - 40 st)
WHY NO COMMENT ON THE li CATERER SERVING PRK AND SHELLFISH ? Looks like the Vaad Harbonim of Goldberg OOPS Flatbush has their own Kehilla Kashrus fiasco ala Kosher Spot
That Chaimel skirts the question means he probably did not say any Tehillim for Maran. But let's face it. It's not like the Queens Vaad is sending out any bulletin to their affiliates because in the ultra-Left leaning Queens Vaad shuls there is r"l a sinah of Maran if anything. Because how dare someone say not to go to Tzahal or not be at the forefront of modern orthodox ideals like the "liberation" (poretz gedarim) of women. And even Chaimel mit zein groysa payos alein has macht avek Maran so that he can ignore the psak for cemeteries.
Yes, the Queens Vaad does the biggest avlos on earth like grave robbing and misrepresenting kashrus but if you dare call attention to it, Schwartz is tzugegreit with a whole arsenal of motzee shem ra, that you are an apikoros, mentally ill, blah blah.
No one said who won the Mauzone case and if anything Chaim Schwartz is incorrect for spinning about omissions when a link was provided to the Court's decision.
And is Chaim Schwartz a complete fraud or just an ignoramous who can't even read from the provided link what the judge wrote in his decision? While some taynas were dismissed, the judge agreed that Mauzone Queens is sticking their claws where they don't belong in the 5 Towns in a SNEAKY way so he is ordering them to use QUEENS as part of their title.
What else have you "got" Schwartz? Do those court papers also "prove" your "point" about sheitelach?
Before you attack Rabbi Goldberg let's ascertain some facts. The caterer Morrell's website says that of their three main locations, only one of them is under the Flatbush Vaad. The other two are under a Reform rabbi from Suffolk County named Steven Moss. For this reason, I don't think Morrell can be charged with fraud unless it can be proven he said he is providing a Conservative standard because Reform officially allow chazir. Cablevision's News 12 said that treif was in all three locations but Newsday is disputing that. Newsday says Rabbi Goldberg did not have anything treif brought into his kitchen, although the paper claims that the kosher & treif was being transported in the same vans (a la Kedassia in England).
There is a Jem Caterers based in Valley Stream that is under Gissinger-Abecasis aka Chof K. I am trying to figure out if they are a division of Morrell. The two caterers names were the plaintiff in a very interesting lawsuit. Morrell said he was interviewing potential clients that had a simcha coming up. A former client who had a monetary dispute with Morrell stormed into the meeting and called Morrell a "shyster". Morrell sued for defamation and for losing the potential business. Er vos hot em geruft "shyster" argued that a "foreign word" does not have a din slander. The judge disagreed.
That Morrell's main location is Temple Israel in Lawrence is going to take on a life of it's own. It happens that Morrell has been in court with the temple which is on the verge of insolvency. The temple board is actually trying to manufacture a bogus conspiracy theory that the frum majority in the 5 Towns is conspiring to shut them down. The real story is that all the members kids either stop coming to shul or marry goyim. Yes Rav Yudel, that may very well be a direct poel yotze from Star K as I have heard they had Morrell's glatt kitchen before Flatbush Vaad.
It will probably emerge soon if Morrell's management has ulterior motives. Morrell's lawyer is already hinting they are a front for Morrell enemies, something to do with a bad investment. Morrell did one day sue his long time attorney, accusing him of scamming his family with a bad investment. Morrell is almost always in court. The question is, is there anyone he did business with that did not end up in litigation with him.
Lets look at the facts. Kashrus is big business.if the average restuarant L'mashal pays $500 a month for hashgochah ( in Flatbush double that due to the need of dual hashgocha) do the math. Thats BIG $$$$. Add to that fee the cost of a mashgiach temidi if required or a mashgiach just to come by and check vegetables( who says that person is really qualified?). The hasgocha fee that the customer pays for Supervision at a catered event which is always a seprate line item on the contract. I spoke with someone yesterday who was crying to me that she booked Morrell at Woodbury for a chassanah in June. The Hashgocha fee was $1500. Does tha mashgiach get it ? NO !! the mashgiach is lucky to get $200. That means the kashrus agency nets $1200 for 1 day. NISHT SHLECHT!! BTW that person is already looking for another caterer($20,000 deposit lost. Do the math a local hashgocha with 40 stores @$500 a pop nets $240,000 I am in the wrong business
Chaimel, how do you know so much about Boxer and Boro Park supermarkets? Oh, I know. Whenever you read a juicy news item here you must drop everything you are doing to get the whole scoop from your network of yentas. Do you call him "Gay Boxer" by chance?
Try not to laugh at this report from the Washington Post. Scott Morrell held a press conference in front of the State Supreme Courthouse in Mineola. The manager and chef showed up with their lawyer and it turned into a big circus with all kinds of shouting and theatrics. The Flatbush Vaad mashgiach Abraham Alper started fressing Morrell's chicken fingers and offered them to dozens of reporters. Reporters are usually the biggest shnorrers who will grab any free food they can get but not a single reporter accepted the chicken fingers according to the NY Times.
Abraham Alper is a very uncommon name. I hope it's not the same Abraham Alper who is on the payroll at JTS.
Morrell's lawyer claims that Howard Fensterman, a lawyer from Lake Success (on Great Neck's southern border) who works in a building next to OU Past President Steve Savitsky, is a mini-Madoff who was behind a $19 million investment fraud and is setting up Morrell to frame him for treif.
California dates from Shoprite of lakewood with ou were infested with lava where the pit had been removed, in spite of a 2013 sell by date. I guesss the advantage of California dates are that if they are infested you could find the bugs, unless we have some fraud going on in the labeling.
"Reporters are usually the biggest shnorrers who will GRAB ANY FREE FOOD THEY CAN GET"
The "biggest"? You've obviously never been to an Agudah convention!
Or a Pesach hotel for that matter. Sorry if I'm infringing on the territory of the other reader named "Pesach hotel fresser" but I can't hold back what I heard beshaim Pruzansky that even after the sedorim when it is assur to eat, the caterers have to replenish all the nosh because of the disgusting fressers who are eating b'issur and/or hoarding loads of extra nosh in their rooms for a "rainy day". Why do you think that Harav Hagaon R' UOJ refers to "Pesach with the Chevra" as "Chevra Chazirim"?
The Morrell story is NOT the same as Kedassia. Kedassia was raw meat that can be washed. Morrell was cooked ready to eat food under Flatbush Vaad sitting next to the cooked pork & shrimp dishes.
Morrell says in a press release that Alper is Flatbush Vaad's mashgiach but that might be incorrect. He might be the mashgiach for other parts of the temple in Woodbury. If so, Rabbi Goldberg should force Morrell to issue a correction. And if Alper is a JTS rabbi working for Goldberg, I hope that the kashrus muckrakers don't let him get away with this.
One of the most traumatizing things I ever saw was after being in a Pesach hotel (KAJ hashgocho) for over a week and no one could even look at food anymore, the most zaftig lady in the whole place of over 1000 guests was mowing through the tea room eating all kinds of high calorie & fat goodies like there was no tomorrow.
It also happens every year at the hotels that the ambulances are taking away guests to the ER because the fressers wanted to make sure they were getting their money's worth and ate too much.
Rav Hershel Schacter shlita’s email was hacked early this morning. The hacker impersonated the Rabbi and told thousands of people by email that he was stuck in Madrid without access to cash and requested a Western Union transfer of 900 Euro. Rav Shachter was very concerned that no one should heaven forbid come to financial damage on his account and requested that the information be spread so that no one will be taken advantage of. Rav Schacher and his wife are actually in Florida and have, b”h, neither been robbed or held up.
Unfortunately, some people who have been in contact with the imposter have determined that he can communicate in Hebrew as well.
...most traumatizing things I ever saw was after being in a Pesach hotel ...
Won't eat from Queens Vaad but to go to a hotel for pesach that's ok. No matter whos hashgacha, any serious mashgiach that ever did pesach in a hotel would NEVER do it again (unless he NEEDED the Money). Find out why. But our dear friend, Spotlight, must be pretty hungery for weeks before pesach so he's "moireh heter" to go 'fress-out' in the hotels for pesach -Rachmanah Yatzeeleinu-
Gabe Boxer's shutef in the catering where all kinds of vendors were not paid is Mitch Froehlich, a YU guy who is now also the Woodmere Fire Commissioner. It's really disgusting that they even ripped off Goldmark because Froehlich davens with the Goldmark mishpacha at Young Israel of Woodmere.
Froehlich is the owner of another company, Paradise Kosher Caterers that makes Pesach at Arizona hotels. I'm not 100% sure if he was the owner that particular year but Pesach guests have been screaming on another kosher food blog that the caterer at that hotel is a big liar who tells anyone what they want to hear. That if you are yeshivish, the caterer tells you there is no mixed swimming but you get a big surprise upon arriving. It is also alleged that that year under OK hashgocho had too few mashgichim, the goyim were eating bread in the hotel, there were not enough kiddush cups to go around for the Seder and they ran out of food.
Young Israel of Woodmere is the place led by Rabbi Hershel Billet who has an unusual set of priorities. He was the target of criticism by 5 Towns rabbonim a few months ago for bringing a galach to give the Shabbos morning derasha in the beis haknesses. And Billet is the same rabbi at the OU who went beserk because an RCA rabbi criticized Rubashkin's lawbreaking in public. Ask any RCA rabbi you know about how Billet was ranting and raving against the Rubashkin critic on the internal RCA intranet system and sounded like he was angry enough to strangle his fellow rabbi.
One of the biggest poshim in the kashrus arena is also a member of Hershel Billet's Young Israel of Woodmere. More about him soon.
Froelich walked out of the K&T Caterers.on doctors orders. Boxer was running the business into the ground. Froelich was told if you stay you will have a heart attack or stroke. He put his keys on the desk and walked away from the business. Boxer was banned from another shul in the 5 Towns. Picture this the Rav was giving his shabbos Drasha and Boxer's truck drives up the driveway passed the windows to the shul for all to see
Hershel Billet made an announcement in the Jewish Star newspaper not to eat from Morrell until the whole story is sorted out but that if you call Rabbi Goldberg and he tells you he is now taking extra precautions then it is ok.
What weird is that Billet's announcement said that Flatbush Vaad is also in Temple Israel of Lawrence. Does that mean that they are sometimes kashering from the Reform rabbi or is the information on Morrell's website incorrect? If Flatbush Vaad has the Lawrence kitchen then treif did allegedly get into one of their kitchens.
If Froehlich is so fragile like you say, then why did he become a firefighter? What else does a za kranker do? Has he taken up mountain climbing as a hobby?
Yogi Twersky is an expert on how to drive a kosher hotel into the ground while squeezing every cent possible out of it. He also ran out of food by the Pesach sedorim one year and he had a full scale riot on his hands.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO MORE FOOD????????!!!!!!!!!!"
Of course he has also done much worse things than that. It's the pinnacle of azus how Twersky keeps running ads praising himself as veteran expert on kosher hotels
Does anyone remember Negev takeout on Ave J? They were probably the Flatbush Vaad's longest running account at 45 years. Then, Rabbi Goldberg and the second hashgocho, Rav Mendelson from Boro Park, threw out Negev because of serious kashrus violations like purposely allowing goyim to broil livers without any supervision. The owner George Gross was said to be bezunder arrogant and did not heed numerous warnings in many areas of kashrus violations. Gross immediately got Babad 20th Ave (who doesn't give a darn what happened) to put his sign in the window and lied to customers about the lead up to the hashgocho change. Babad later had major repercussions from this which is story by itself.
When the truth about Negev started to spread, Gross abruptly closed the storefront and became a caterer working out of the upstairs office. Gross claimed to be under a choice of Queens Vaad or 5 Towns Vaad which Rabbi Goldberg suspects he was probably just repackaging Mauzone's food and making illegitimate hashgocho claims.
Gross, a former RJJ boy who is the other bum at Young Israel of Woodmere, is now the owner of Kleen Farms / Kleen Green, a Bodek competitor under OU and Hisachdus. He claims to have a process that gets leaf miners out of romaine stalks and thrips out of strawberries. There has been a push to get this brand into stores which seemingly could not happen without vouching & a push from Hershel Billet.
Don't believe a word that this lowlife Gross says!
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If you think that with all those hashgachas it is as kosher as in normal people homes (we don't know if Spotlight has a normal home, if he does, it has nothing to with him) then your a bigger and more ignorant fool then we thought (and no one ever thoght that Spotlght is 'ah choochim' to begin with).
Ain hochi nami the Shaloh Hakadosh said people should not eat outside their own house. So can we assume that the year you gave hashgocho on a Pesach hotel in Lancaster you discouraged everyone from coming to eat from you because it's not kosher enough?
When Hershel Billet came under attack for letting a Catholic priest give the Shabbos derasha in his Young Israel. One of his buddies wrote a letter to the 5 Times Jewish Times (Nov.24,2011) to counter-attack Lakewood, probably because most of the yeshivishe rabbonim in Woodmere and Hewlett are Lakewood talmidim. Billet's buddy is a jerk named Charlie Miller who is Past President of Young Israel of Hewlett and on the Board of National Council of Young Israel. He is an eidim by someone Newman who was President of Young Israel of Boro Park. Miller monns the newspaper that they owe Hershel Billet an apology for mentioning criticism of him by yeshivishe rabbonim when they did not allow modern orthodox criticism of Lakewood being a bunch of batlonim without parnossa being that Rav Matisyahu Salamon visited the 5 Towns the same Shabbos as the galich.
I think the rule is if someone is hiding which hashgocho they have it's probably because it's questionable.
Have you noticed that half the Pesach hotels, despite the fortune they spent on newspaper ads & flashy websites, do not tell you whose hashgocho they are under? When you call some of these clown caterers they even try to give the runaround when asked a direct question. After you pin them to the wall, they throw out the name of some no name rabbi not involved in any other hashgocho work who G-d knows what his standards are.
One of the "best" lines I ever heard from a caterer on the defensive was "it's good enough for the 5 Towns 'yeshivish' crowd". This included not having shmurah matzah except for the sedorim. The rav hamachshir for that caterer was grada not no name - he was Zushe Blech - who seems to be increasingly pushing the envelope as the years go by with different companies and products that are raising eyebrows.
If I were Bodek, I would be furious that Hisachdus is giving on a direct competitor like George Gross who claims to be more bug-free than any other brand.
to the anonynomus comment concerning george gross and negev you have committed character assisnation and defamtion. George gross is a zadik who adhees to the higest standard of kashrus. Annonmymus must be rabbi godberg who is an incompetent jerk who hates george gross because george gross has the balls to satnd up this rabbi who is reaaly a fraud.
Anonymous Goldberg ? why the abuse and lies against Rabbi Billet,Rabbi Babad,Gross,Heyman and all your other posts today? Shouldn't you be doing crisis management and cover up on YOUR MORREL situation ?
why is rabbi goldberg ganging up on george gross? negev was the piller in the flatbush community for many years until goldberg and his gang came up with bs violations in order to extort more $ money from negev.and gross. i personally oversaw the livers and i never saw a non jew cook up anything at negev goldberg aka anonymous is simply upset because gross has the balls to stand up to his BS hasgocho just my opinion
There are places thrown out by Rabbi Goldberg where he sounds cloudy as to what the violations were. But when it came to George Gross, he was very forceful, clear and concise about what some of the violations were.
I am 85 years old and I have known the gross family for overy 45 years. Negev had always the best food and especially its potato kugel. rabbi Goldberg aka anonymous should bashing george gross and negev. gross new business cleaning vegetables will iyh succeed becausre the process works. NUNO
what does bezunder arrogant mean? why is goldberg engaging in mamish rechilus? Gross is a big lamdan in the area of kashrus and a hidden zadik. Please leave him alone. a former customer
ok people we have now heard the official "psak" from the elder statesman of fressers in flatbush that george gross makes the tastiest potato kugel, so now forget about any kashrus concerns you might have which geshmake potato kugel is "doiche"
Kings-Chai where do you get your information? Forceful? Goldberg knew gross had already sold the place. he was trying to flex his muscles where he suspected there would be no repercussions.
If George gross sold the place there is no chance Goldberg was getting anymore money so what would be the point of bad mouthing George ? I don't think your story makes sense
Well, who and why was Gross even mentioned here? What purpose could that have served, other than a deflection away from VHF and Goldberg ? What does Gross have to do with Rabbi Billet ? What is this Blog all about ? Seems more like a BLOB. Mudslinging ,lies,Sinas Chinam,Loshon Horah. No wonder we are being punished by having all these Gedolim falling ill at the same time. STOP THE MADNESS! YUDEL SHUT DOWN THIS TOILET
Its called muscle flexing. Look what I can do! I am the all mighty and powerful Goldberg, And I must deflect morals oops Morrell from the forefront. What better than a lie that was perpetrated over 5 years ago. Hmm who else besides the Goldbergs are on the VHF?
Hershel Billet is looking real "smart" right now. He decided to backtrack from the ad he placed in the Jewish Star by sending out an email that he backs the Flatbush Vaad 100%.
Now the Nassau County DA has announced that it has been criminally investing Morrell since September for kashrus fraud which is a Class E felony in NY State, based on an independent party planner who blew the whistle.
Court papers allege that while the Flatbush Vaad mashgiach may not have been fooled with treif actual food in the Woodbury & Lawrence kitchens, they were taking kelim back & forth to use for treif.
There is also a blogger alleging that Rabbi Goldberg has been receiving complaints for months that the caterer is mechalel Shabbos to prepare the food but did nothing about it.
If George Gross is so kosher & "kleen" then why did he misrepresent having hashgocho from two different organizations while he was doing catering from atop the old storefront on Ave J?
The catering business on top of the former Negev storefront on Ave J had that on a website or maybe something published at the time that consumers have a choice of Queens Vaad or 5 Towns Vaad supervision. I don't remember exactly which type of medium it was printed. When people mentioned it to Rabbi Goldberg he surmised that George is probably just repackaging from Mauzone without any right to make hashgocho claims for himself. What are you going to do now, George? Go and destroy the 5 year old evidence so you can call everyone "shakranim"?
George, did Alex get paid when you shuttered Negev take out and made off like a thief in the night? I hope so because he covered up pretty good for you saying that Rabbi Mendelson was no longer certifying because he "retired". That was sure news to Rabbi Mendelson.
Goldberg if you were so smart you would of known That the store was sold to Friedman's Supermarket 3 months before the store closed Bur wait you are the all knowing Goldberg and you are to busy with Morrell and his kosher shrimp
Who are the Rabbonim affiliated with the Vaad of Flatbush ? How does one get a listing of Vaad approved establishments ? KK has Rabbi Sheinermann,Rabbi Reisman,Rabbi Cohen and Rabbi Auman as part of the advisory board. Who fills that role in the vaad ?
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Rav Mordechai Bezalel Klein Dayan di'Satmar gives a hashgocha on the packaged items, which are known to be infested according to those in the know, e.g. Rav Moshe Vaye, etc
11/4/2008
Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Elyashiv Shlita had some very harsh words regarding sheitels, stating the women who wear them are as if they go outdoor bareheaded.
The Rav repeated over and over again the severity of the isur of wearing sheitels, which the wife and her husband share equal responsibility.
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-024088-11/KI
Case Name: ALLE PROCESSING CORP. vs. BENICOR FOOD SERVICES, INC.
(Star K client based in Williamsburg)
Queens County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-089191-09/QU
Case Name: ALLE PROCESSING CORP. vs. KOTIMSKY & TUCHMAN OF NASSAU LTD BOXER, GABRIEL
Very interesting that Pomegranate would have hired Gabe Boxer after he stiffed Alle because Alle reportedly owns part of the supermarket.
In any case, Boxer was recently let go like most upper level Pomegranate employees eventually are. What Pomegranate does is work them almost to death for 80 to 100 weeks to suck all the yedios and usefullness out of them. When they have been totally sucked dry, Pomegranate gets rid of them and moves on to a replacement worker that can be had for half the salary.
Kings Civil Supreme
Index Number: 002247/2011
Case Name: LIG INSURANCE COMPANY, LTD vs. MEAL MART 13TH AVE. CORP.
Case Type: Other Torts
Tue Feb 07, 11:11:00 PM 2012
Is Queens Vaad dray kop Chaimel Schwartz who is the biggest expert in taking things out of context to further his agendas and not providing links to his "sources".
Chaimel, while you've been very busy not listening to Maran Rav Elyashev's psak to restore the destruction of kivrei yesomim by your Queens Vaad and while you distort his psak about wigs to take cheap shots at your opponent, have you said a single kappitel Tehillim for the gadol hador who is suffering organ failure? Or are humanitarian gestures bichlal not part of the VHQ job description?
This is just stam Queens Vaad client Mauzone not paying up:
Queens County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-050146-11/QU
Case Name: A A TRUCK RENTING CORP vs. MAUZONE FOOD SERVICES INC
But is this ever a complicated lawsuit:
http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/10JD/Nassau/decisions/INDEX/INDEX_new/DRISCOLL/2011MAY/002741-11.pdf
But it's "like Vaad, like client". If the Queens Vaad alein goes sticking it's grubby paws in the 5 Towns area to take business away from that Vaad hakashrus, then the clients have a "good" example to follow.
Maran Elyashiv said no such thing! He specifically said todays pruste shaitlach are ossur, not across the board.
Watch out for Gabe Boxer! It's not just Alle he didn't pay. He has a long history of taking from vendors and not paying.
World of Chantilly
Strauss Bakery
Valpak
BenZ's
West Side Foods
Sea Breeze wholesale seafood
Party Linen USA
Launderall Laundry & Linen
Produce Express
NY Hood & Duct Cleaning
Gold-Mark Promotions
And he didn't pay his electrician or his credit card bills to Discover & Chase.
Car just crashed into Satmar butcher store on ave. J ............ Even the RBS"O doesn't approve of the nirabator
Of course Rav Elyashev zolt er zein gezunt only assered prusta ones. But the spinmeister at the Queens Vaad thinks he can get away with LYING that all were assered because he then thinks in his farshtunkena thought process that the Queens Vaad can get away with ignoring RYSE on kivrei yesomim because the gantz velt doesn't listen about something else.
Anything that C.S. from VHQ says is suspect because he's always spinning his wheels in the same direction.
I saw today the most disgusting looking figs from Turkey. Dirty, rotting and pashtus infested. There was a big Star K on the box and they are sold in a supermarket under a hashgocho that should know better.
That Star K shamelessly takes money even for garbage like this is a new low.
R' Yudel, a rov who knows kashrus very good told me he agrees with you on a lot of things but doesn't agree about all dried dates. He said he checked many of the high end California ones and never found a single bug.
have you said a single kappitel Tehillim for the gadol hador who is suffering organ failure?
If anybody said Tihillim or not you'll never know. But we DO know that you, Spotlight, had no time time to pray to your ...... because your surfing all court cases to see if any of your "good friends" are involved.
The fact that Mauzone won the case, you conveniently omitted.
Aye. Its just another nail in your 'religion-hater' personality.
Which by now the world already figured out.
Maran Elyashiv said no such thing! He specifically said todays pruste shaitlach are ossur, not across the board.
Some more "reading-in" to satisfy your ego and krumme shitous.
FYI Mauzone is under the OU NOT VHQ.
Boxer is nolonger at Pom. He is currently setting up the Gourmet Glatt in the old FRIEDMAN'S in Boro Park (13 ave 39 - 40 st)
WHY NO COMMENT ON THE li CATERER SERVING PRK AND SHELLFISH ?
Looks like the Vaad Harbonim of Goldberg OOPS Flatbush has their own Kehilla Kashrus fiasco ala Kosher Spot
That Chaimel skirts the question means he probably did not say any Tehillim for Maran. But let's face it. It's not like the Queens Vaad is sending out any bulletin to their affiliates because in the ultra-Left leaning Queens Vaad shuls there is r"l a sinah of Maran if anything. Because how dare someone say not to go to Tzahal or not be at the forefront of modern orthodox ideals like the "liberation" (poretz gedarim) of women. And even Chaimel mit zein groysa payos alein has macht avek Maran so that he can ignore the psak for cemeteries.
Yes, the Queens Vaad does the biggest avlos on earth like grave robbing and misrepresenting kashrus but if you dare call attention to it, Schwartz is tzugegreit with a whole arsenal of motzee shem ra, that you are an apikoros, mentally ill, blah blah.
No one said who won the Mauzone case and if anything Chaim Schwartz is incorrect for spinning about omissions when a link was provided to the Court's decision.
And is Chaim Schwartz a complete fraud or just an ignoramous who can't even read from the provided link what the judge wrote in his decision? While some taynas were dismissed, the judge agreed that Mauzone Queens is sticking their claws where they don't belong in the 5 Towns in a SNEAKY way so he is ordering them to use QUEENS as part of their title.
What else have you "got" Schwartz? Do those court papers also "prove" your "point" about sheitelach?
Just tell Mrs 'farshvatzte' ** Spotlight to sell the sheitel.
Also tell her to never dress "prust".
Stop the blah blahing about alteh neias that everyone knows is skewed.
** farshvatzt, because shes stuck with a "zaddik'el" like you.
Before you attack Rabbi Goldberg let's ascertain some facts. The caterer Morrell's website says that of their three main locations, only one of them is under the Flatbush Vaad. The other two are under a Reform rabbi from Suffolk County named Steven Moss. For this reason, I don't think Morrell can be charged with fraud unless it can be proven he said he is providing a Conservative standard because Reform officially allow chazir. Cablevision's News 12 said that treif was in all three locations but Newsday is disputing that. Newsday says Rabbi Goldberg did not have anything treif brought into his kitchen, although the paper claims that the kosher & treif was being transported in the same vans (a la Kedassia in England).
There is a Jem Caterers based in Valley Stream that is under Gissinger-Abecasis aka Chof K. I am trying to figure out if they are a division of Morrell. The two caterers names were the plaintiff in a very interesting lawsuit. Morrell said he was interviewing potential clients that had a simcha coming up. A former client who had a monetary dispute with Morrell stormed into the meeting and called Morrell a "shyster". Morrell sued for defamation and for losing the potential business. Er vos hot em geruft "shyster" argued that a "foreign word" does not have a din slander. The judge disagreed.
That Morrell's main location is Temple Israel in Lawrence is going to take on a life of it's own. It happens that Morrell has been in court with the temple which is on the verge of insolvency. The temple board is actually trying to manufacture a bogus conspiracy theory that the frum majority in the 5 Towns is conspiring to shut them down. The real story is that all the members kids either stop coming to shul or marry goyim. Yes Rav Yudel, that may very well be a direct poel yotze from Star K as I have heard they had Morrell's glatt kitchen before Flatbush Vaad.
It will probably emerge soon if Morrell's management has ulterior motives. Morrell's lawyer is already hinting they are a front for Morrell enemies, something to do with a bad investment. Morrell did one day sue his long time attorney, accusing him of scamming his family with a bad investment. Morrell is almost always in court. The question is, is there anyone he did business with that did not end up in litigation with him.
Lets look at the facts.
Kashrus is big business.if the average restuarant L'mashal pays $500 a month for hashgochah ( in Flatbush double that due to the need of dual hashgocha) do the math. Thats BIG $$$$. Add to that fee the cost of a mashgiach temidi if required or a mashgiach just to come by and check vegetables( who says that person is really qualified?). The hasgocha fee that the customer pays for Supervision at a catered event which is always a seprate line item on the contract.
I spoke with someone yesterday who was crying to me that she booked Morrell at Woodbury for a chassanah in June. The Hashgocha fee was $1500. Does tha mashgiach get it ? NO !! the mashgiach is lucky to get $200. That means the kashrus agency nets $1200 for 1 day. NISHT SHLECHT!! BTW that person is already looking for another caterer($20,000 deposit lost.
Do the math a local hashgocha with 40 stores @$500 a pop nets $240,000 I am in the wrong business
Chaimel, how do you know so much about Boxer and Boro Park supermarkets? Oh, I know. Whenever you read a juicy news item here you must drop everything you are doing to get the whole scoop from your network of yentas. Do you call him "Gay Boxer" by chance?
Try not to laugh at this report from the Washington Post. Scott Morrell held a press conference in front of the State Supreme Courthouse in Mineola. The manager and chef showed up with their lawyer and it turned into a big circus with all kinds of shouting and theatrics. The Flatbush Vaad mashgiach Abraham Alper started fressing Morrell's chicken fingers and offered them to dozens of reporters. Reporters are usually the biggest shnorrers who will grab any free food they can get but not a single reporter accepted the chicken fingers according to the NY Times.
Abraham Alper is a very uncommon name. I hope it's not the same Abraham Alper who is on the payroll at JTS.
Morrell's lawyer claims that Howard Fensterman, a lawyer from Lake Success (on Great Neck's southern border) who works in a building next to OU Past President Steve Savitsky, is a mini-Madoff who was behind a $19 million investment fraud and is setting up Morrell to frame him for treif.
California dates from Shoprite of lakewood with ou were infested with lava where the pit had been removed, in spite of a 2013 sell by date. I guesss the advantage of California dates are that if they are infested you could find the bugs, unless we have some fraud going on in the labeling.
"Reporters are usually the biggest shnorrers who will GRAB ANY FREE FOOD THEY CAN GET"
The "biggest"? You've obviously never been to an Agudah convention!
Or a Pesach hotel for that matter. Sorry if I'm infringing on the territory of the other reader named "Pesach hotel fresser" but I can't hold back what I heard beshaim Pruzansky that even after the sedorim when it is assur to eat, the caterers have to replenish all the nosh because of the disgusting fressers who are eating b'issur and/or hoarding loads of extra nosh in their rooms for a "rainy day". Why do you think that Harav Hagaon R' UOJ refers to "Pesach with the Chevra" as "Chevra Chazirim"?
Tzvai dinim.
The Morrell story is NOT the same as Kedassia. Kedassia was raw meat that can be washed. Morrell was cooked ready to eat food under Flatbush Vaad sitting next to the cooked pork & shrimp dishes.
Morrell says in a press release that Alper is Flatbush Vaad's mashgiach but that might be incorrect. He might be the mashgiach for other parts of the temple in Woodbury. If so, Rabbi Goldberg should force Morrell to issue a correction. And if Alper is a JTS rabbi working for Goldberg, I hope that the kashrus muckrakers don't let him get away with this.
One of the most traumatizing things I ever saw was after being in a Pesach hotel (KAJ hashgocho) for over a week and no one could even look at food anymore, the most zaftig lady in the whole place of over 1000 guests was mowing through the tea room eating all kinds of high calorie & fat goodies like there was no tomorrow.
It also happens every year at the hotels that the ambulances are taking away guests to the ER because the fressers wanted to make sure they were getting their money's worth and ate too much.
If you get an email asking for funds to underwrite Belsky to complete his teshuva on DA cows, my best guess is that it's probably bogus too.
http://www.5tjt.com/local-news/13194-rav-hershel-shachters-email-hacked
Rav Hershel Schacter shlita’s email was hacked early this morning. The hacker impersonated the Rabbi and told thousands of people by email that he was stuck in Madrid without access to cash and requested a Western Union transfer of 900 Euro.
Rav Shachter was very concerned that no one should heaven forbid come to financial damage on his account and requested that the information be spread so that no one will be taken advantage of. Rav Schacher and his wife are actually in Florida and have, b”h, neither been robbed or held up.
Unfortunately, some people who have been in contact with the imposter have determined that he can communicate in Hebrew as well.
Yudel, you are going to lose readers if comment section gets filled with these off-topic rants.
"Yudel, you are going to lose readers if comment section gets filled with these off-topic rants."
There are one or two dray kops who keep threatening that because they hate that the wide ranging & interesting comments are drawing MORE readers.
...most traumatizing things I ever saw was after being in a Pesach hotel ...
Won't eat from Queens Vaad
but to go to a hotel for pesach that's ok.
No matter whos hashgacha, any serious mashgiach that ever did pesach in a hotel would NEVER do it again (unless he NEEDED the Money).
Find out why.
But our dear friend, Spotlight, must be pretty hungery for weeks before pesach so he's "moireh heter" to go 'fress-out' in the hotels for pesach -Rachmanah Yatzeeleinu-
Gabe Boxer's shutef in the catering where all kinds of vendors were not paid is Mitch Froehlich, a YU guy who is now also the Woodmere Fire Commissioner. It's really disgusting that they even ripped off Goldmark because Froehlich davens with the Goldmark mishpacha at Young Israel of Woodmere.
Froehlich is the owner of another company, Paradise Kosher Caterers that makes Pesach at Arizona hotels. I'm not 100% sure if he was the owner that particular year but Pesach guests have been screaming on another kosher food blog that the caterer at that hotel is a big liar who tells anyone what they want to hear. That if you are yeshivish, the caterer tells you there is no mixed swimming but you get a big surprise upon arriving. It is also alleged that that year under OK hashgocho had too few mashgichim, the goyim were eating bread in the hotel, there were not enough kiddush cups to go around for the Seder and they ran out of food.
Young Israel of Woodmere is the place led by Rabbi Hershel Billet who has an unusual set of priorities. He was the target of criticism by 5 Towns rabbonim a few months ago for bringing a galach to give the Shabbos morning derasha in the beis haknesses. And Billet is the same rabbi at the OU who went beserk because an RCA rabbi criticized Rubashkin's lawbreaking in public. Ask any RCA rabbi you know about how Billet was ranting and raving against the Rubashkin critic on the internal RCA intranet system and sounded like he was angry enough to strangle his fellow rabbi.
One of the biggest poshim in the kashrus arena is also a member of Hershel Billet's Young Israel of Woodmere. More about him soon.
Paradise Caterer's of Arizona is run by Stuart morganstern of Chicago. HE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED FOR KASHRUS PESACH OR ALL YEAR !!!!!
Froelich walked out of the K&T Caterers.on doctors orders. Boxer was running the business into the ground. Froelich was told if you stay you will have a heart attack or stroke. He put his keys on the desk and walked away from the business.
Boxer was banned from another shul in the 5 Towns. Picture this the Rav was giving his shabbos Drasha and Boxer's truck drives up the driveway passed the windows to the shul for all to see
Paradise is a hefker caterer run by danziger from Chicago.
"Won't eat from Queens Vaad but to go to a hotel for pesach that's ok."
Vayomer Haman belibo who has a better hashgocho than my Queens Vaad? (which truth be told is a non-frum standard)?
The following hashgochos are doing Pesach hotels who even R' Yudel holds of some of them:
KAJ
R' Dovid Miller
Rav Szmerla (kinas "sofrim" from Greenwald's?)
Badatz Lugano
Badatz Eidah Charedis
Rav Padwa
Hershel Billet made an announcement in the Jewish Star newspaper not to eat from Morrell until the whole story is sorted out but that if you call Rabbi Goldberg and he tells you he is now taking extra precautions then it is ok.
What weird is that Billet's announcement said that Flatbush Vaad is also in Temple Israel of Lawrence. Does that mean that they are sometimes kashering from the Reform rabbi or is the information on Morrell's website incorrect? If Flatbush Vaad has the Lawrence kitchen then treif did allegedly get into one of their kitchens.
If Froehlich is so fragile like you say, then why did he become a firefighter? What else does a za kranker do? Has he taken up mountain climbing as a hobby?
Yogi Twersky is an expert on how to drive a kosher hotel into the ground while squeezing every cent possible out of it. He also ran out of food by the Pesach sedorim one year and he had a full scale riot on his hands.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO MORE FOOD????????!!!!!!!!!!"
Of course he has also done much worse things than that. It's the pinnacle of azus how Twersky keeps running ads praising himself as veteran expert on kosher hotels
Does anyone remember Negev takeout on Ave J? They were probably the Flatbush Vaad's longest running account at 45 years. Then, Rabbi Goldberg and the second hashgocho, Rav Mendelson from Boro Park, threw out Negev because of serious kashrus violations like purposely allowing goyim to broil livers without any supervision. The owner George Gross was said to be bezunder arrogant and did not heed numerous warnings in many areas of kashrus violations. Gross immediately got Babad 20th Ave (who doesn't give a darn what happened) to put his sign in the window and lied to customers about the lead up to the hashgocho change. Babad later had major repercussions from this which is story by itself.
When the truth about Negev started to spread, Gross abruptly closed the storefront and became a caterer working out of the upstairs office. Gross claimed to be under a choice of Queens Vaad or 5 Towns Vaad which Rabbi Goldberg suspects he was probably just repackaging Mauzone's food and making illegitimate hashgocho claims.
Gross, a former RJJ boy who is the other bum at Young Israel of Woodmere, is now the owner of Kleen Farms / Kleen Green, a Bodek competitor under OU and Hisachdus. He claims to have a process that gets leaf miners out of romaine stalks and thrips out of strawberries. There has been a push to get this brand into stores which seemingly could not happen without vouching & a push from Hershel Billet.
Don't believe a word that this lowlife Gross says!
http://www.linkedin.com/in/georgegross?trk=pub-pbmap
He incidentally lies on his Linked In profile as having 45 years experience as a caterer. He started working when he was 10 years old?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-heyman/8/433/34a
What's the story with the operations manager at Kleen Farms, Adam Heyman, who used to be food service director at the Lakewood Courtyard and YU?
KAJ
R' Dovid Miller
Rav Szmerla (kinas "sofrim" from Greenwald's?)
Badatz Lugano
Badatz Eidah Charedis
Rav Padwa
If you think that with all those hashgachas it is as kosher as in normal people homes (we don't know if Spotlight has a normal home, if he does, it has nothing to with him) then your a bigger and more ignorant fool then we thought (and no one ever thoght that Spotlght is 'ah choochim' to begin with).
Ok Chaim,
Ain hochi nami the Shaloh Hakadosh said people should not eat outside their own house. So can we assume that the year you gave hashgocho on a Pesach hotel in Lancaster you discouraged everyone from coming to eat from you because it's not kosher enough?
When Hershel Billet came under attack for letting a Catholic priest give the Shabbos derasha in his Young Israel. One of his buddies wrote a letter to the 5 Times Jewish Times (Nov.24,2011) to counter-attack Lakewood, probably because most of the yeshivishe rabbonim in Woodmere and Hewlett are Lakewood talmidim. Billet's buddy is a jerk named Charlie Miller who is Past President of Young Israel of Hewlett and on the Board of National Council of Young Israel. He is an eidim by someone Newman who was President of Young Israel of Boro Park. Miller monns the newspaper that they owe Hershel Billet an apology for mentioning criticism of him by yeshivishe rabbonim when they did not allow modern orthodox criticism of Lakewood being a bunch of batlonim without parnossa being that Rav Matisyahu Salamon visited the 5 Towns the same Shabbos as the galich.
I think the rule is if someone is hiding which hashgocho they have it's probably because it's questionable.
Have you noticed that half the Pesach hotels, despite the fortune they spent on newspaper ads & flashy websites, do not tell you whose hashgocho they are under? When you call some of these clown caterers they even try to give the runaround when asked a direct question. After you pin them to the wall, they throw out the name of some no name rabbi not involved in any other hashgocho work who G-d knows what his standards are.
One of the "best" lines I ever heard from a caterer on the defensive was "it's good enough for the 5 Towns 'yeshivish' crowd". This included not having shmurah matzah except for the sedorim. The rav hamachshir for that caterer was grada not no name - he was Zushe Blech - who seems to be increasingly pushing the envelope as the years go by with different companies and products that are raising eyebrows.
If I were Bodek, I would be furious that Hisachdus is giving on a direct competitor like George Gross who claims to be more bug-free than any other brand.
to the anonynomus comment concerning george gross and negev
you have committed character assisnation and defamtion. George gross is a zadik who adhees to the higest standard of kashrus. Annonmymus must be rabbi godberg who is an incompetent jerk who hates george gross because george gross has the balls to satnd up this rabbi who is reaaly a fraud.
Sat Feb 11, 09:04:00 PM 2012
Anonymous Goldberg ? why the abuse and lies against Rabbi Billet,Rabbi Babad,Gross,Heyman and all your other posts today? Shouldn't you be doing crisis management and cover up on YOUR MORREL situation ?
Greenhoiz , Are you Postiv ?
ya sure rabbi goldberg is "lying" so the k.i.c. rabbonim must have just ganged up on rabbi babad for "nothing" that he certified george gross after
why is rabbi goldberg ganging up on george gross? negev was the piller in the flatbush community for many years until goldberg and his gang came up with bs violations in order to extort more $ money from negev.and gross.
i personally oversaw the livers and i never saw a non jew cook up anything at negev goldberg aka anonymous is simply upset because gross has the balls to stand up to his BS hasgocho just my opinion
There are places thrown out by Rabbi Goldberg where he sounds cloudy as to what the violations were. But when it came to George Gross, he was very forceful, clear and concise about what some of the violations were.
If the kashrus was so bad why did Goldberg's wife shop there EVERY erev shabbos ?
What's the problem? She shopped there until they knew George Gross was violating kashrus policies.
I won't argue to that selling food to fress makes you a "pillar" of the community HAHA!
I am 85 years old and I have known the gross family for overy 45 years. Negev had always the best food and especially its potato kugel. rabbi Goldberg aka anonymous should bashing george gross and negev. gross new business cleaning vegetables will iyh succeed becausre the process works.
NUNO
If the problems were going on for so long as Goldberg states surely he told his wife. Get your stories straight.
what does bezunder arrogant mean? why is goldberg engaging in mamish rechilus? Gross is a big lamdan in the area of kashrus and a hidden zadik. Please leave him alone.
a former customer
you never heard of igluy milsa lemafrayah that you can retroactively find out someone was violating kashrus policies for a while?
ok people we have now heard the official "psak" from the elder statesman of fressers in flatbush that george gross makes the tastiest potato kugel, so now forget about any kashrus concerns you might have which geshmake potato kugel is "doiche"
Kings-Chai where do you get your information? Forceful? Goldberg knew gross had already sold the place. he was trying to flex his muscles where he suspected there would be no repercussions.
If George gross sold the place there is no chance Goldberg was getting anymore money so what would be the point of bad mouthing George ? I don't think your story makes sense
Well, who and why was Gross even mentioned here?
What purpose could that have served, other than a deflection away from VHF and Goldberg ?
What does Gross have to do with Rabbi Billet ?
What is this Blog all about ? Seems more like a BLOB. Mudslinging ,lies,Sinas Chinam,Loshon Horah. No wonder we are being punished by having all these Gedolim falling ill at the same time.
STOP THE MADNESS! YUDEL SHUT DOWN THIS TOILET
Its called muscle flexing. Look what I can do! I am the all mighty and powerful Goldberg, And I must deflect morals oops Morrell from the forefront. What better than a lie that was perpetrated over 5 years ago.
Hmm who else besides the Goldbergs are on the VHF?
Hershel Billet is looking real "smart" right now. He decided to backtrack from the ad he placed in the Jewish Star by sending out an email that he backs the Flatbush Vaad 100%.
Now the Nassau County DA has announced that it has been criminally investing Morrell since September for kashrus fraud which is a Class E felony in NY State, based on an independent party planner who blew the whistle.
Court papers allege that while the Flatbush Vaad mashgiach may not have been fooled with treif actual food in the Woodbury & Lawrence kitchens, they were taking kelim back & forth to use for treif.
There is also a blogger alleging that Rabbi Goldberg has been receiving complaints for months that the caterer is mechalel Shabbos to prepare the food but did nothing about it.
Goldberg will blame Gross
If George Gross is so kosher & "kleen" then why did he misrepresent having hashgocho from two different organizations while he was doing catering from atop the old storefront on Ave J?
Where was that represented? Prove something. 5 year old stories that are all lies.
Look in the mirror and yell SHAKRIN
The catering business on top of the former Negev storefront on Ave J had that on a website or maybe something published at the time that consumers have a choice of Queens Vaad or 5 Towns Vaad supervision. I don't remember exactly which type of medium it was printed. When people mentioned it to Rabbi Goldberg he surmised that George is probably just repackaging from Mauzone without any right to make hashgocho claims for himself. What are you going to do now, George? Go and destroy the 5 year old evidence so you can call everyone "shakranim"?
If it was published surely you have proof of these false accusations ?
George, did Alex get paid when you shuttered Negev take out and made off like a thief in the night? I hope so because he covered up pretty good for you saying that Rabbi Mendelson was no longer certifying because he "retired". That was sure news to Rabbi Mendelson.
Next George will say you have to bring proof that Alex exists. Is there a way to haul a live person inside a blog?
Goldberg are you still the Rabbi at Temple Hillel?
Goldberg if you were so smart you would of known That the store was sold to Friedman's Supermarket 3 months before the store closed
Bur wait you are the all knowing Goldberg and you are to busy with Morrell and his kosher shrimp
Who are the Rabbonim affiliated with the Vaad of Flatbush ?
How does one get a listing of Vaad approved establishments ?
KK has Rabbi Sheinermann,Rabbi Reisman,Rabbi Cohen and Rabbi Auman as part of the advisory board. Who fills that role in the vaad ?
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