Quality Farmers Market-Don't rely on their hashgocha?
Do not rely on their hashgocha!!!
Quality Farmers Market(Lakewood / Howell) packs-non-kosher with a Hashgocha?
All the packaged items are under the Dayan's hashgocha, and are a kashrus infested product disaster!
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Isn't the hashgocha on store prepared packaged items only ? Please !!!!!! do your homework before you jump to conclusions. Harav Shain's information used to be more accurate . Please don't ruin Harav Shain's reputation.
There is a non-kosher store under Queens Vaad hashgocho which is a violation of the VHQ rules. Oy, what lengths the Queens Vaad went to cover this one up.
What about the Nirbater allowing packaged goods in Meal Mart stores with non-heimish and even unreliable hashgocho? Even Amram Roth stopped doing that after KIS / KIC spoke to him.
Rabbi Goldberg,What is your motivation here? Why are you even bringing up seemingly false stories from 5 years ago ? What do you hope to gain? Have you even spoken to Gross in the past 5 years? Why would the head of a kashrus organization feel compelled to post anonymously ? Perhaps Gross should take you to a Bes Din ?
Rabbi Goldberg, Why does the head of a Kashrus Organization feel compelled to post anonymously? Don't you have more important pressing issues to deal with ? Who is checking on the kashrus at your current locations? Why are you even bringing up what you consider issues from 5 years ago against someone who you yourself said was under your hashgocha for 45 years. Most food establishments only have one hashgocha. Why do most of yours feelcompelled to have a second one ? From what was stated here you knew he was selling the business,was your motivation that you were losing yet another hashgocha and the revenue stream or trying to show your authority against someone who did not feel compelled to fight back ?
George or whoever you are, how do you know that Rabbi Goldberg is posting here? Did he send you a telegram to that effect?
Don't play dumb now because you know the reasons why Flatbush Vaad stores often have a second hashgocho. One is because the old Vaad was a mess before Rabbi Goldberg cleaned house and some people still can't get over the old state of affairs. Another is because there are Young Israel people who resent the haymishe crowd and their hashgochos and haymishe people who don't trust any hashgocho connected to modern elements. So those are the complicated politics in Brooklyn that so many restaurants have two hashgochos. The very chassidish crowd does not trust Kehillah either which is why there are Kehillah stores with a 2nd hashgocho.
I find it hard to believe that if Rabbi Goldberg explicity says you had an unsupervised goy broiling livers for Negev that he was making it up out of nowhere.
Young Israel of Flatbush ? Isn't Rabbi Auman The Rav of YI Flatbush an integral part of Kehilla Kashrus ? What Rabbonim are part of the Vaad of Flatbush? How can one get a listing of the Vaad affiliated rabbonim?
Kenny Auman was one of the Flatbush Vaad rabbis who left for Kehillah because kashrus was so bad. But Kehillah is actually not as good as the new improved Vaad under Rabbi Goldberg which is why Rav Hillel David quit Kehillah. Most of the rabbis of modern orthodox shuls are Vaad members.
Didnt Rabbi Hille David quit Kehilla when it went from a free hashgocha to a one that charged a fee? We are still waiting for an answer as to what Rabbonim sit on the Vaad
Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ? What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ? What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ? Who establishes Vaad policy ? Who are the field mashgiachim ? Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ?
Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ? What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ? What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ? Who establishes Vaad policy ? Who are the field mashgiachim ? Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ?
what makes you think that KK (K'hillah Kashrus) does have viable answers to the above questions /
Such a system should have the potential to treat a variety of diseases. DNA nanotechnology is widely recognized as a potential way to deliver drugs and molecular signals: another plus is it is biodegradable.
But there are considerable challenges in how to program this tiny machine, never mind how to make the right structure, then get it to open and close, then re-open, insert, carry and deliver the payload.
The study represents a big step forward in meeting these challenges because three new elements have been combined for the first time. One of these is because the DNA barrel has no lids, the payloads can be inserted from the side in one step: there is no need to open and then close the barrel.
The second new element is that this system uses latches that respond to proteins (not DNA or RNA like other systems), which are commonly found on cell surfaces. And the third new element is that it uses antibody fragments to send the molecular signals, so by using different combinations of these, different types of immune responses can be replicated to target specific diseases.
Written by Catharine Paddock PhD Copyright: Medical News Today
New York…If you expected the unexpected this year like a Passover challah, think again. On the contrary, this year’s crop of new products appeals to meal enhancement, much of it upscale and even healthier eating. But the list this year is also extremely diverse, touching almost every category. So here is KosherToday’s list (submitted by the companies themselves): Eden Organic Spaghetti Sauce, No Salt Spaghetti Sauce, Pizza Pasta Sauce, Crushed Tomatoes, Crushed Tomatoes with Sweet Basil, and Crushed Tomatoes with Roasted Onion & Garlic are now available in new, protective amber glass containers. These sauces can be placed on Manischewitz spiral and shell shaped gluten-free pasta which is made in Israel and available in 12 oz. bags. Other new products in similar categories include Valterra Extra Virgin Olive Oil (DS International Traders), Almacen Cuna de Olivares Vero Andino and Olikids Extra Virgin Olive Oil (Argentina); Olive Oil, Kalamata and Giant Santa epicurean olives, Passion Fruit Obsession and Passion Fruit Sauce, and Charoset (all From Oxygen); Mikee Mango Duck Sauce (Exotic Sauce Packaging, which won Kosherfest’s 2012 Best New "Kosher for Passover" Product); Sugat Royal White Quinoa (Osem); Mother’s new one pound block of butter ( pareve and gluten-free); and Mother’s margarine blocks are back.
While more and more supermarkets sell hand-made Shmura Matzohs, the shelves will be decked with all kinds of new Matzah and Matzah related products. They include Organic Matzo (Manischewitz); Yehuda’s Gluten Free Toasted Onion Matzo-Style Square Line (not to be confused with Matzah that requires the Hamotzie blessing); Yehuda’s Gluten Free Cake Meal; All Natural Gluten Free Panko Flakes (Jeff Nathan Creations ); and gluten-free Pesach Crumbs (Mishpacha).On the traditional end of Matzos, Manischewitz introduces a new round handmade Seder table Matzah as well as the tastes of rosemary, oregano and olive oil with Manischewitz Mediterranean Matzah. Osem introduces their Thin Matzah in Original and Whole Wheat flavors, Sandwich Matzah Strips – Original and Whole Wheat, Milk Chocolate Coated Matzah and Dark Chocolate Coated Matzah in Mint Flavor a new Passover after dinner delicacy.
There are also new additions for breakfast and desserts: Nescafe Taster's Choice Decaffeinated instant coffee, (Hatam Sofer Kashrut); Eco Café Line of Fair Trade Costa Rican Coffee which is available in six premium aromas and roasts as well as seven different varieties of Halva (Oxygen); Sucralis (Splenda) in one gram packets or liquid form for cooking and in tablets for on the go (California Delight- distributed by DS International Traders); Raspberry Syrup water flavoring (Osem); Yummy Bites and Frozen Yogurt Pop’s in Pomegranate and Sherbet Orange Cream (Klein’s Kosher Ice Cream); Chevra Frozen Strawberries (Klein’s Kosher Ice Cream); and Gluten-free Yellow and Chocolate Cake Mixes (Manischewitz).
In the meat and fish category, Jack’s Gourmet introduces Beef Kielbasa Sausage- and Spicy Southwestern Style Sausage (gluten free). Alle Processing introduces Meal Mart Meals including Chicken Soup with Matzoh Balls, Hungarian Style Beef Stuffed Cabbage in Sweetened Tomato Sauce, Beef Stew and Oven Roasted Lamb Breast. Manischewitz introduces a Mediterranean Gefilte Fish. In the sweets department, there are many new additions, including Sweet Goodies licorice in four flavors (low fat and gluten- free); Guiltless Gourmet Crunches (Toasted Almond Crunch, Roasted Cashew Crunch, and Berries & Cherries Nut Crunch); Kettle Chips - Barbeque and Sea Salt (Manischewitz); Twisty Color Marshmallows and & Ice Pops (Mishpacha); Macaroons in Commemorative Tin, Mint Chocolate Macaroons, Sugar-Free Macaroons and Red Velvet Cake Mix (Manischewitz); Bamba with Halvah Sesame Cream, and POPCO Butterscotch Flavored Corn (Osem).
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-021047-11/KI Case Name: CAPITAL ONE BANK (USA) N.A vs. CHAIMOWITZ, BARRY ORTHODOX GLATT KOSHER BUTCHERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER NEW YORK INC Case Type: Civil Classification: Consumer Credit Filing Date: 03/10/2011
Bronx County Civil Court Index Number: CV-059095-11/BX Case Name: West Side Foods, Inc. vs. The Lasko Family Kosher Tours, Inc. Case Type: Civil Classification: Commercial Filing Date: 09/07/2011
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-084534-11/KI Case Name: DAVID ROSEN BAKERY SUPPLIES INC. vs. MENDY'S ROYALE KOSHER BAKE SHOP, INC. CINNER, MENDY Case Type: Civil Classification: General Filing Date: 12/16/2011
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-051407-11/KI Case Name: SERVICE SMOKER FISH CORP vs. HEAVENLY KOSHER INC, DBA WEISS KOSHER CUISINE Case Type: Civil Classification: General Filing Date: 07/19/2011
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-056661-11/KI Case Name: PAY O MATIC CHECK CASHING CORP vs. SKS SEIGALS KOSHER SERVICES, INC, DBA WEISS KOSHER CUSINE Case Type: Civil Classification: Consumer Credit Filing Date: 08/12/2011
New York County Civil Court Index Number: CV-047682-11/NY Case Name: WORLD OF CHANTILLY, INC. vs. HEAVENLY KOSHER INC. WEISS, ABRAHAM, DBA HEAVENLY KOSHER WEISS, PEARL, DBA HEAVENLY KOSHER Case Type: Civil Classification: General Filing Date: 09/16/2011
Queens County Civil Court Index Number: CV-032913-11/QU Case Name: WES DESIGN & SUPPLY CO, LTD. vs. SKS SIEGEL'S KOSHER SERVICES INC WEISS KOSHER CUISINE INC Case Type: Civil Classification: General Filing Date: 04/07/2011
Nassau County District Court - 3rd District Index Number: CV-000284-08/NH Case Name: VINELAND KOSHER POULTRY INC vs. GROSS, GEORGE NEGEV HOME MADE FOOD AKA NEGEV HOME FOODS
New York County Civil Court Index Number: CV-005194-98/NY Case Name: THE DEPENDABLE FOOD CORP. vs. GROSS, GEORGE, DBA NEGEV RESTAURANT
New York Civil Supreme Index Number: 016814/1990 Case Name: WEISS STERN & COMPANY vs. NEGEV HOME MADE FOOD INC.
New York Civil Supreme Index Number: 010852/1992 Case Name: GERALD SYNDICATE vs. NEGEV HOME MADE FOODS
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-044105-02/KI Case Name: FRIEDLANDER GROUP, INC. vs. NEGEV FOODS, INC.
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-064276-06/KI Case Name: METROPOLITAN TELECOMMUNICATIONS, DBA METTEL vs. NEGEV HOME FOODS INC
Kings County Civil Court Index Number: CV-112220-07/KI Case Name: S. BERTRAM, INC. vs. NEGEV FOODS, INC.
Yudel, What purpose does it serve this Blog to list legal actions that are over 10 years old ? Most are over 10 years old and have probably been disposed of. Loshon Hora and totally irrelevant to the alleged purposeof this blog.
Because George Gross has a history of not paying his bills which is dishonest. And because George Gross still has a business which begs please trust me with kashrus.
When he didn't pay his landlord he even tried pulling a bilbul to pretend he was not the owner of Negev. I looked up the court case. What a mockery.
Rabbi Goldberg please answer these questions already, Enough of your HIStory lessons. kashrus 1 said... Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ? What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ? What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ? Who establishes Vaad policy ? Who are the field mashgiachim ? Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ? Rabbi Goldberg AKA anonymous THESE ARE CURRENT ISSUES THAT NEED ANSWERS Rabbi Goldberg answer please
You were already told the big powerful one Kingsway.
Most of the Young Israels (some have yeshivishe rabbis like Bedford Bay so those rabbis would not be Vaad members)
There are many old shuls down Ocean Parkway, Coney Island Ave, Ocean Ave, Nostrand Ave, Ave J, Kings Hwy.
Sheepshead & Brighton is also Flatbush for Vaad purposes. There are also old shuls for that purpose in Mill Basin, East Flatbush, Canarsie, Flatlands, etc.
Rabbi Goldberg's son who learned in NIRC Baltimore is the chief field rep.
Dannon Opts Out for Passover Leaving Many Markets Without Yogurt
White Plains, NY…The Dannon Company will not produce its traditional OU yogurts for Passover, KosherToday has learned. Food sources say that the absence of the yogurts will leave a huge void in many markets that rely on the kosher for Passover products. Sources say that while Dannon produces many kosher products, indicated by a k and mention of kosher gelatin in its ingredients, only the Vanilla and Plain flavors do not include the gelatin and thus are certified by the Orthodox Union (OU). The company may have decided not to do special KP productions for just the two items. The sources say that Dannon’s actions follows decisions by other icons in recent years not to produce special Kosher for Passover items, including Wesson, Lay’s, and Bumble Bee. The Dannon action comes at a time when the number of SKU’s for the holiday continues to increase, by one count well over 15,000. In some markets where kosher consumers opt for Cholov Yisrael brands like Mehadrin, the Dannon Passover items will not be missed. Passover in the past few years has been affected by no-shows and shortages. In recent years, the list included Barton’s, margarine, and Tam Tam’s.
Perhaps it is because we live in twenty-first century America, a country largely immune from true epidemics, that we take vaccination for granted and some parents even consider not vaccinating their children. A Jew living in the eighteenth century would have longed for respite from the relentless onslaught of diseases, and could only have dreamed of having a way to prevent them. The thought of refusing vaccinations would never have entered his mind. Unfortunately, nowadays, as a result of misleading information, some parents are confused about the issue and do not realize the importance of vaccinations. A cursory review of the origins of vaccination in medical and rabbinical literature may provide some perspective on the issue.
In the late eighteenth century, smallpox decimated the population of Europe. Millions of people died from the disease, and a high percentage of children were afflicted. In the eighteenth century alone, an estimated 400,000 Europeans died each year. When potential relief from the horrors of the disease came on the horizon, there must have been unabashed excitement. The cure, or, more accurately, the mechanism of disease prevention, however, was unique in the history of medicine: it required exposing healthy individuals to disease, hopefully a mild form, in order to prevent the development of a more serious disease. The procedure involved the removal of fluid from the pox of an afflicted patient, and the subsequent injection of that virulent fluid into the body of a healthy individual. Scientists believed that the healthy person injected with the fluid would develop a mild, non-fatal form of smallpox, and would therefore be spared the likelihood of fatality if later exposed to the spontaneous form. This was indeed the case the majority of the time, but the procedure was not without risk; some of those inoculated developed the severe form of the disease, and died as a result (an estimated 0.5 to 2 percent). In fact, there is a tombstone in Long Island, New York, with the following epitaph: In Memory of Peleg, Son of Thomas and Mary Conklin, who died of the smallpox inoculation Jan. 27th, 1788, aged 17 years In 1785, Rabbi Avraham ben Shlomo Nansich published a small pamphlet entitled “Aleh Terufah,” detailing the tragic loss of two of his children to smallpox and beseeching the rabbis of his generation to allow inoculation.
However, the treatment was considered controversial at the time, as never in the history of mankind had one taken a healthy individual and injected him with the very cause of an illness, even if the objective was to prevent a more severe disease. This unique treatment posed a dilemma for the Torah-observant Jew. The Torah gives license to the physician to heal the sick, but does it give him license to bestow illness upon the healthy, albeit for an ultimate cure? The debate about the medical and theological aspects of smallpox inoculation occupied a significant chapter in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century history.
Rabbis of that time debated the issues and were well aware of the risks associated with vaccination. Rabbi Israel Lifschutz, author of the Tiferet Yisrael commentary on the Mishnah, argued in favor of inoculation despite its known risks. In his view, the benefits clearly exceeded the risks. Other prominent rabbis advocated vaccination as well, including Rabbi Mordechai Banet (1753-1829), Rabbi Eliezer Fleckeles (1754-1826) and Rabbi Ishmael HaKohen (1723-1811).
An additional halachic issue arose with regard to the practical dissemination of the inoculation. In the early days of inoculation, the injections were performed by barber-
surgeons, who traveled from town to town. They often spent only a few hours in each location. The question therefore arose as to whether one could receive the inoculation on Shabbat, if that happened to be the only time it was offered. The halachic discussions touched on two issues. The first issue related to the exact nature of the prohibition associated with the injection. Halachic distinctions were drawn between injections made under the skin (subcutaneous), as opposed to those made directly into the vein (intravenous). The second, more fundamental, issue was the determination of the halachic status of the healthy patient receiving the injection. The violation of Shabbat is permitted only for patients who are technically considered ill, and the level of violation allowed is commensurate with the severity of the illness. While patients in need of receiving inoculation are not technically ill, the debate was whether they should nonetheless be considered in the halachic category of a “choleh she’ain bo sakanah” (one experiencing a non-life-threatening illness), by virtue of their presence in an endemic area of life-threatening disease (see, for example, Teshuvah Meahavah 1:134; Zecher Yehosaf, OC 104; Shu”t Vela’asher Amar 15). This categorization of the patient would allow the violation of some prohibitions in the provision of treatment. If the patient receiving the inoculation was not ascribed this status, no Shabbat violation would be permitted. After much deliberation, a number of posekim allowed the inoculation of healthy individuals on Shabbat, which entailed possible Shabbat violation, in order to protect them from exposure to smallpox.The more crude inoculation for smallpox was soon replaced with the scientifically tested vaccination of Edward Jenner, which inoculated patients with the cowpox virus in order to protect them from smallpox. More than 200 years have passed since Jenner’s discovery, and the effectiveness of vaccination is now beyond question. In fact, the discovery of vaccination is on virtually every top ten list of the greatest discoveries in the history of medicine, appearing as number one on many of them. While there is no way to know how many lives have been saved globally as a result of vaccinations for diseases such as smallpox, diphtheria, measles, polio, pneumococcus and influenza, tens of millions would be a very conservative estimate. Indeed, smallpox, the first disease for which vaccination was used, has been virtually eradicated from the face of the earth.
However, while the side effects of vaccinations—including death—are rare, they are also well documented. Despite these foreseen consequences, scientific research has proven that the risk-benefit analysis weighs very heavily in favor of vaccination. The side effects must be viewed in the context of general medical practice. The issue of assuming risk and self-endangerment is the substance of many halachic discussions, but the assumption of some risk in the pursuit of medical treatment is an accepted fact. There is arguably not a single form of treatment, from Tylenol to chemotherapy, which is free of side effects—many of them serious. Yet the obligation to seek a cure and prevent disease remains in full force, despite the risks. To be sure, each treatment requires its own risk-benefit statistical analysis.
Anecdotal accounts of vaccinations leading to other conditions, such as autism, do exist. But these are not well-documented, scientifically proven side effects. To date, these claims have not been substantiated by rigorous scientific study. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine performed a thorough study on the hypothesis that vaccines, and, in particular, the mercury they contained, were causally related to autism. Its published findings, entitled “
Anonymous said... Rabbi Goldberg please answer these questions already, Enough of your HIStory lessons. kashrus 1 said... Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ? What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ? What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ? Who establishes Vaad policy ? Who are the field mashgiachim ? Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ? Rabbi Goldberg AKA anonymous THESE ARE CURRENT ISSUES THAT NEED ANSWERS Rabbi Goldberg answer please
Tue Feb 21, 06:39:00 PM 2012 Anonymous said... "What moderna shuls in Flatbush?"
Are you nuts? There are tons.
You were already told the big powerful one Kingsway.
Most of the Young Israels (some have yeshivishe rabbis like Bedford Bay so those rabbis would not be Vaad members)
There are many old shuls down Ocean Parkway, Coney Island Ave, Ocean Ave, Nostrand Ave, Ave J, Kings Hwy.
Sheepshead & Brighton is also Flatbush for Vaad purposes. There are also old shuls for that purpose in Mill Basin, East Flatbush, Canarsie, Flatlands, etc.
Rabbi Goldberg's son who learned in NIRC Baltimore is the chief field rep.
Tue Feb 21, 08:45:00 PM 2012
Thank you for the update ! The only name mentioned here is Rabbi Goldberg's son. Why don't you provide a list of names of Rabbonim and the shuls they are associated with ? Is it that you can't or wont ? What are you trying to hide? Chief field rep or only field rep ? what about names of mashgiachim that are sent out to catering events ?
There's a possibility that the most recent poster getting on the Flatbush Vaad's case is the perpetual nudnik "you know who" at the Queens Vaad. Besides being a yenta (even as he pretends to be the Velt's machmir on lashon horah), he is certainly interested in the temples as the Queens Vaad considers the whole Long Island as their turf and other hashgochos out there as interlopers. It must bug the Queen$ Vaad that they have to compete out there on temple catering with Star K, Chof K, Flatbush Vaad.
There are several similarities between "kashrus 1" and the Queens Vaad's C.S., including that C.S. is known to add the number one to his email addresses.
The eradication of smallpox may have been the greatest feat of medical science. Smallpox is estimated to have killed more people than any other disease in history, approximately 300 million people in the 20th century alone. It kills about one third of all infected people. This disease was the scourge of the world for millennia and then it was gone. Thanks to the World Health Organization, there has not been a singe naturally occurring case of smallpox since 1977 and there has been no need to immunize against the disease in the United States since 1972.
With this in mind, it is possible to understand the horror that civilized people feel when considering the possibility that smallpox could be used as a biological weapon by terrorists or rogue nations.
Interestingly, Edward Jenner created the very first modern vaccine in 1796 to combat smallpox when he inoculated the first person with cowpox (a related, but much more benign disease), creating immunity to smallpox. Since that time, we have developed many vaccines against many deadly infectious diseases, particularly deadly childhood diseases.
Vaccination Risks
While vaccination has led to the virtual eradication of a host of deadly diseases such as polio, whooping cough, diphtheria, and measles, vaccination still remains controversial for some. This is primarily because vaccinations are not without side effects. People have long weighed the risks of preventive vaccination against the risk of deadly disease. Even before Jenner introduced the vaccinia smallpox vaccine (essentially the same vaccine we use today), people would deliberately infect themselves with smallpox via the skin with material taken from sufferers of smallpox, with the hope of developing a milder case of the disease. Faced with the virtual certainty of catching severe, natural smallpox, many people sought out this procedure, called 'inoculation,' which had an approximately .5-2% mortality rate. This was considered better than the expected mortality rate of about 30% from wild smallpox.
Despite the significant statistical advantage of immunization over disease, as a general rule, no one wants to be responsible for directly causing the injury or death of someone else. While the risk of death from a contagious disease may be high, it can be viewed as a random event. The parent who agrees to allow their child to be immunized is doing a definitive physical action that could bring harm to their child. There are even some Jews who oppose vaccination because of the Biblical command of "walk simply before the Lord, your God," which means "walk with Him in simplicity and anticipate His support, and do not delve into the future."
In Jewish law, this is the issue of "shev v'al taaseh" -- sit and do not act -- versus "maaseh" -- choose the proactive response. Generally, if the outcome of action versus inaction each has a significant downside, we opt for inaction. For this reason, some parents, both Jewish and non-Jewish, object to immunizing their children.
But this rationale only makes sense if the risks are equivalent. If the risk of disease far exceeds the risk of vaccination (which is usually the case), then the maaseh (action) is usually preferable.
For this reason, we assume that not immunizing our children for fear of complications is irrational. But that is only because we consider the risk of disease to be so much higher than the risk of immunization, that we consider the latter risk to be inconsequential.
It is important to emphasize that vaccination is permitted, even when there is a small risk of death from the vaccine. In fact, in the 19th century, Rabbi Yisroel Lipshutz, known as the Tiferes Yisroel, ruled that the smallpox vaccine is permitted, despite the risk of death. Interestingly, he also lists Edward Jenner as a "righteous gentile" for the development of the smallpox vaccine that saved hundreds of thousands of lives. It is important to note that the Tiferes Yisroel wrote at a time when smallpox was still a major killer, dwarfing any side effects of the vaccine by the tremendous number of deaths from the disease. Rabbi Lipshutz's ruling was true when many contagious diseases such as smallpox were common. But is it still true when immunization has virtually eliminated the incidence of these diseases? When risk of dying of the disease decreases to the point of being less than or equal to the risk of dying of the immunization, what is the proper course?
Jewish law would certainly insist that any possible methods of reducing the risks associated with vaccination be implemented. Additionally, once the risk of disease has sufficiently declined, the risk of vaccination is no longer justified. Nevertheless, we must take into account that the risk of disease reemergence might justify continued immunization.
For this exact reason, the United States has recently switched from the oral Sabin vaccine, which has a 2-4 in a million chance of causing polio, to the less powerful, but safer, Salk vaccine because the risk of polio from the oral vaccine approached the risk of acquiring wild polio. This will be discussed in greater depth later.
If everyone else is doing it, why should I?
Once the risk of infection from a communicable disease becomes very small, we are faced with another question. If everyone around me is immunized, should I accept the risk of immunization? As the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine (April 2001) explains:
"Herd immunity, the concept of decreased infection in susceptible
These nuts have Chaim Schwartz on the brain 24 hours a day. They wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat and check under the bed to make sure Chaim is not hiding there. I wouldn't be surprised if they believe Chaim actually was behind 9/11.
You guys really need a life. Or a good shrink. Or both.
Whoever it may beasking these questions, who cares? Why doesn't Goldberg answer the questions posted ? Who other than him who are the rabbonimon the Vaad? PLEASE GIVE NAMES and affiliations. Who are the field mashgiachim? Who are the catering establishment mashgiachim ? Who establishes Vaad policies ? What establishments have the Vaad as the exclusive hashgocha ?
Lazy Bum sounds like Goldberg ? There is no information on the Vaad ? No website.Just a phone number. No one knows. KIC wont divulge any information either. Why ?
KIC will never say anything negative about rabbonei machshir, even those who do a lousy job, unless the rabbi in question is either modern orthodox or is the rov of a modern shul located OUTSIDE of Brooklyn.
They will NEVER ruffle the feathers of yeshivish and chassidish rabbonim that are local. They finally faced the facts one day that they didn't have a choice but to come down hard on Gornish and Babad, which they did secretly. It is an avlah that they waited so many years to take action and they didn't correct all of the problems, only some.
A surprise inspection at the Holon slaughterhouse revealed a serious violation of halacha (Jewish law), Maariv reports. Sudanese workers were left in charge of treating meat to make it kosher, with nobody on hand to supervise the process as required.
The rabbi in charge of the slaughterhouse has reportedly fired the kashrut supervisor on whose watch the incident occurred. Meat that had been out at the time was labeled non-kosher.
George Gross is a known in the social circles of brooklyn. People that know him don't trust him and the kashrus issue with Negev comes as no surprise.
People who "stand up" for him do so because they like the food. But from an ethical standpoint, I know personally that he cut corners to make an extra dime.
He admits it to his friends and there is no boosha involved. It sickens me and if you knew him, you would not give him dan likaf zchus...regardless if Rabbi Goldberg is involved and people have some issues with him.
When customers asked George's manager Alex at Negev, nu nu so there was a falling out with the Flatbush Vaad after 45 years. But why do you also no longer have the hashgocho of Rav Mendelson from Boro Park? Was Alex lying himself or was he parroting a lie that George told him that Rav Mendelson "retired"? Rav Mendelson still certifies other places around town.
You can attack Rabbi Goldberg all you want but we see right through you, George.
I am really disgusted by that tzettl from Satmar d'Lakewood. What right do they have to be meramez to the possuk of Haporetz geder where Shlomo Hamelech is mekalel that someone should be bitten by a snake? The Kadmonim say it goes on someone who reads a private letter after ripping open a sealed envelope.
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Isn't the hashgocha on store prepared packaged items only ? Please !!!!!! do your homework before you jump to conclusions. Harav Shain's information used to be more accurate . Please don't ruin Harav Shain's reputation.
A concerned friend
There is a non-kosher store under Queens Vaad hashgocho which is a violation of the VHQ rules. Oy, what lengths the Queens Vaad went to cover this one up.
What about the Nirbater allowing packaged goods in Meal Mart stores with non-heimish and even unreliable hashgocho? Even Amram Roth stopped doing that after KIS / KIC spoke to him.
Can you please elaborate?
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B'H. Reb Yudel is coming to his senses and deleting narishe comments from guys like Spotlight and his cheverah.
Rabbi Goldberg,What is your motivation here? Why are you even bringing up seemingly false stories from 5 years ago ? What do you hope to gain?
Have you even spoken to Gross in the past 5 years?
Why would the head of a kashrus organization feel compelled to post anonymously ?
Perhaps Gross should take you to a Bes Din ?
Rabbi Goldberg, Why does the head of a Kashrus Organization feel compelled to post anonymously?
Don't you have more important pressing issues to deal with ?
Who is checking on the kashrus at your current locations?
Why are you even bringing up what you consider issues from 5 years ago against someone who you yourself said was under your hashgocha for 45 years.
Most food establishments only have one hashgocha. Why do most of yours feelcompelled to have a second one ?
From what was stated here you knew he was selling the business,was your motivation that you were losing yet another hashgocha and the revenue stream or trying to show your authority against someone who did not feel compelled to fight back ?
George or whoever you are, how do you know that Rabbi Goldberg is posting here? Did he send you a telegram to that effect?
Don't play dumb now because you know the reasons why Flatbush Vaad stores often have a second hashgocho. One is because the old Vaad was a mess before Rabbi Goldberg cleaned house and some people still can't get over the old state of affairs. Another is because there are Young Israel people who resent the haymishe crowd and their hashgochos and haymishe people who don't trust any hashgocho connected to modern elements. So those are the complicated politics in Brooklyn that so many restaurants have two hashgochos. The very chassidish crowd does not trust Kehillah either which is why there are Kehillah stores with a 2nd hashgocho.
I find it hard to believe that if Rabbi Goldberg explicity says you had an unsupervised goy broiling livers for Negev that he was making it up out of nowhere.
Young Israel of Flatbush ? Isn't Rabbi Auman The Rav of YI Flatbush an integral part of Kehilla Kashrus ?
What Rabbonim are part of the Vaad of Flatbush? How can one get a listing of the Vaad affiliated rabbonim?
Kenny Auman was one of the Flatbush Vaad rabbis who left for Kehillah because kashrus was so bad. But Kehillah is actually not as good as the new improved Vaad under Rabbi Goldberg which is why Rav Hillel David quit Kehillah. Most of the rabbis of modern orthodox shuls are Vaad members.
Didnt Rabbi Hille David quit Kehilla when it went from a free hashgocha to a one that charged a fee?
We are still waiting for an answer as to what Rabbonim sit on the Vaad
Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ?
What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ?
What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ?
Who establishes Vaad policy ?
Who are the field mashgiachim ?
Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ?
You are kidding that you don't have a clue about what modern shuls are in Flatbush, right?
Kashrus is completely under the control of Goldberg unless Milton Polin is still alive.
Kingsway was the most powerful of the modern shuls under old Milton.
Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ?
What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ?
What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ?
Who establishes Vaad policy ?
Who are the field mashgiachim ?
Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ?
what makes you think that KK (K'hillah Kashrus) does have viable answers to the above questions
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Such a system should have the potential to treat a variety of diseases. DNA nanotechnology is widely recognized as a potential way to deliver drugs and molecular signals: another plus is it is biodegradable.
But there are considerable challenges in how to program this tiny machine, never mind how to make the right structure, then get it to open and close, then re-open, insert, carry and deliver the payload.
The study represents a big step forward in meeting these challenges because three new elements have been combined for the first time. One of these is because the DNA barrel has no lids, the payloads can be inserted from the side in one step: there is no need to open and then close the barrel.
The second new element is that this system uses latches that respond to proteins (not DNA or RNA like other systems), which are commonly found on cell surfaces. And the third new element is that it uses antibody fragments to send the molecular signals, so by using different combinations of these, different types of immune responses can be replicated to target specific diseases.
Written by Catharine Paddock PhD
Copyright: Medical News Today
New York…If you expected the unexpected this year like a Passover challah, think again. On the contrary, this year’s crop of new products appeals to meal enhancement, much of it upscale and even healthier eating. But the list this year is also extremely diverse, touching almost every category. So here is KosherToday’s list (submitted by the companies themselves): Eden Organic Spaghetti Sauce, No Salt Spaghetti Sauce, Pizza Pasta Sauce, Crushed Tomatoes, Crushed Tomatoes with Sweet Basil, and Crushed Tomatoes with Roasted Onion & Garlic are now available in new, protective amber glass containers. These sauces can be placed on Manischewitz spiral and shell shaped gluten-free pasta which is made in Israel and available in 12 oz. bags. Other new products in similar categories include Valterra Extra Virgin Olive Oil (DS International Traders), Almacen Cuna de Olivares Vero Andino and Olikids Extra Virgin Olive Oil (Argentina); Olive Oil, Kalamata and Giant Santa epicurean olives, Passion Fruit Obsession and Passion Fruit Sauce, and Charoset (all From Oxygen); Mikee Mango Duck Sauce (Exotic Sauce Packaging, which won Kosherfest’s 2012 Best New "Kosher for Passover" Product); Sugat Royal White Quinoa (Osem); Mother’s new one pound block of butter ( pareve and gluten-free); and Mother’s margarine blocks are back.
While more and more supermarkets sell hand-made Shmura Matzohs, the shelves will be decked with all kinds of new Matzah and Matzah related products. They include Organic Matzo (Manischewitz); Yehuda’s Gluten Free Toasted Onion Matzo-Style Square Line (not to be confused with Matzah that requires the Hamotzie blessing); Yehuda’s Gluten Free Cake Meal; All Natural Gluten Free Panko Flakes (Jeff Nathan Creations ); and gluten-free Pesach Crumbs (Mishpacha).On the traditional end of Matzos, Manischewitz introduces a new round handmade Seder table Matzah as well as the tastes of rosemary, oregano and olive oil with Manischewitz Mediterranean Matzah. Osem introduces their Thin Matzah in Original and Whole Wheat flavors, Sandwich Matzah Strips – Original and Whole Wheat, Milk Chocolate Coated Matzah and Dark Chocolate Coated Matzah in Mint Flavor a new Passover after dinner delicacy.
There are also new additions for breakfast and desserts: Nescafe Taster's Choice Decaffeinated instant coffee, (Hatam Sofer Kashrut); Eco Café Line of Fair Trade Costa Rican Coffee which is available in six premium aromas and roasts as well as seven different varieties of Halva (Oxygen); Sucralis (Splenda) in one gram packets or liquid form for cooking and in tablets for on the go (California Delight- distributed by DS International Traders); Raspberry Syrup water flavoring (Osem); Yummy Bites and Frozen Yogurt Pop’s in Pomegranate and Sherbet Orange Cream (Klein’s Kosher Ice Cream); Chevra Frozen Strawberries (Klein’s Kosher Ice Cream); and Gluten-free Yellow and Chocolate Cake Mixes (Manischewitz).
In the meat and fish category, Jack’s Gourmet introduces Beef Kielbasa Sausage- and Spicy Southwestern Style Sausage (gluten free). Alle Processing introduces Meal Mart Meals including Chicken Soup with Matzoh Balls, Hungarian Style Beef Stuffed Cabbage in Sweetened Tomato Sauce, Beef Stew and Oven Roasted Lamb Breast. Manischewitz introduces a Mediterranean Gefilte Fish. In the sweets department, there are many new additions, including Sweet Goodies licorice in four flavors (low fat and gluten- free); Guiltless Gourmet Crunches (Toasted Almond Crunch, Roasted Cashew Crunch, and Berries & Cherries Nut Crunch); Kettle Chips - Barbeque and Sea Salt (Manischewitz); Twisty Color Marshmallows and & Ice Pops (Mishpacha); Macaroons in Commemorative Tin, Mint Chocolate Macaroons, Sugar-Free Macaroons and Red Velvet Cake Mix (Manischewitz); Bamba with Halvah Sesame Cream, and POPCO Butterscotch Flavored Corn (Osem).
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-021047-11/KI
Case Name: CAPITAL ONE BANK (USA) N.A vs. CHAIMOWITZ, BARRY ORTHODOX GLATT KOSHER BUTCHERS ASSOCIATION OF GREATER NEW YORK INC
Case Type: Civil
Classification: Consumer Credit
Filing Date: 03/10/2011
Bronx County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-059095-11/BX
Case Name: West Side Foods, Inc. vs. The Lasko Family Kosher Tours, Inc.
Case Type: Civil
Classification: Commercial
Filing Date: 09/07/2011
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-084534-11/KI
Case Name: DAVID ROSEN BAKERY SUPPLIES INC. vs. MENDY'S ROYALE KOSHER BAKE SHOP, INC. CINNER, MENDY
Case Type: Civil
Classification: General
Filing Date: 12/16/2011
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-051407-11/KI
Case Name: SERVICE SMOKER FISH CORP vs. HEAVENLY KOSHER INC, DBA WEISS KOSHER CUISINE
Case Type: Civil
Classification: General
Filing Date: 07/19/2011
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-056661-11/KI
Case Name: PAY O MATIC CHECK CASHING CORP vs. SKS SEIGALS KOSHER SERVICES, INC, DBA WEISS KOSHER CUSINE
Case Type: Civil
Classification: Consumer Credit
Filing Date: 08/12/2011
New York County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-047682-11/NY
Case Name: WORLD OF CHANTILLY, INC. vs. HEAVENLY KOSHER INC. WEISS, ABRAHAM, DBA HEAVENLY KOSHER WEISS, PEARL, DBA HEAVENLY KOSHER
Case Type: Civil
Classification: General
Filing Date: 09/16/2011
Queens County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-032913-11/QU
Case Name: WES DESIGN & SUPPLY CO, LTD. vs. SKS SIEGEL'S KOSHER SERVICES INC WEISS KOSHER CUISINE INC
Case Type: Civil
Classification: General
Filing Date: 04/07/2011
Yudel. please get hold of r' sariel' rosenberg's new letter supporting knopfler and post it.
Nassau County District Court - 3rd District
Index Number: CV-000284-08/NH
Case Name: VINELAND KOSHER POULTRY INC vs. GROSS, GEORGE NEGEV HOME MADE FOOD AKA NEGEV HOME FOODS
New York County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-005194-98/NY
Case Name: THE DEPENDABLE FOOD CORP. vs. GROSS, GEORGE, DBA NEGEV RESTAURANT
New York Civil Supreme
Index Number: 016814/1990
Case Name: WEISS STERN & COMPANY vs. NEGEV HOME MADE FOOD INC.
New York Civil Supreme
Index Number: 010852/1992
Case Name: GERALD SYNDICATE vs. NEGEV HOME MADE FOODS
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-044105-02/KI
Case Name: FRIEDLANDER GROUP, INC. vs. NEGEV FOODS, INC.
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-064276-06/KI
Case Name: METROPOLITAN TELECOMMUNICATIONS, DBA METTEL vs. NEGEV HOME FOODS INC
Kings County Civil Court
Index Number: CV-112220-07/KI
Case Name: S. BERTRAM, INC. vs. NEGEV FOODS, INC.
Sounds like the "tastiest" food from George Gross was made with the finest ingredients that he never paid for.
Yudel, What purpose does it serve this Blog to list legal actions that are over 10 years old ? Most are over 10 years old and have probably been disposed of.
Loshon Hora and totally irrelevant to the alleged purposeof this blog.
http://freelakewood.blogspot.com/2012/02/do-you-trust-kupat-hair-vaad-harabonim.html
Because George Gross has a history of not paying his bills which is dishonest. And because George Gross still has a business which begs please trust me with kashrus.
When he didn't pay his landlord he even tried pulling a bilbul to pretend he was not the owner of Negev. I looked up the court case. What a mockery.
Rabbi Goldberg please answer these questions already, Enough of your HIStory lessons. kashrus 1 said...
Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ?
What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ?
What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ?
Who establishes Vaad policy ?
Who are the field mashgiachim ?
Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ?
Rabbi Goldberg AKA anonymous
THESE ARE CURRENT ISSUES THAT NEED ANSWERS
Rabbi Goldberg answer please
"What moderna shuls in Flatbush?"
Are you nuts? There are tons.
You were already told the big powerful one Kingsway.
Most of the Young Israels (some have yeshivishe rabbis like Bedford Bay so those rabbis would not be Vaad members)
There are many old shuls down Ocean Parkway, Coney Island Ave, Ocean Ave, Nostrand Ave, Ave J, Kings Hwy.
Sheepshead & Brighton is also Flatbush for Vaad purposes. There are also old shuls for that purpose in Mill Basin, East Flatbush, Canarsie, Flatlands, etc.
Rabbi Goldberg's son who learned in NIRC Baltimore is the chief field rep.
Dannon Opts Out for Passover Leaving Many Markets Without Yogurt
White Plains, NY…The Dannon Company will not produce its traditional OU yogurts for Passover, KosherToday has learned. Food sources say that the absence of the yogurts will leave a huge void in many markets that rely on the kosher for Passover products. Sources say that while Dannon produces many kosher products, indicated by a k and mention of kosher gelatin in its ingredients, only the Vanilla and Plain flavors do not include the gelatin and thus are certified by the Orthodox Union (OU). The company may have decided not to do special KP productions for just the two items. The sources say that Dannon’s actions follows decisions by other icons in recent years not to produce special Kosher for Passover items, including Wesson, Lay’s, and Bumble Bee. The Dannon action comes at a time when the number of SKU’s for the holiday continues to increase, by one count well over 15,000. In some markets where kosher consumers opt for Cholov Yisrael brands like Mehadrin, the Dannon Passover items will not be missed. Passover in the past few years has been affected by no-shows and shortages. In recent years, the list included Barton’s, margarine, and Tam Tam’s.
Perhaps it is because we live in twenty-first century America, a country largely immune from true epidemics, that we take vaccination for granted and some parents even consider not vaccinating their children. A Jew living in the eighteenth century would have longed for respite from the relentless onslaught of diseases, and could only have dreamed of having a way to prevent them. The thought of refusing vaccinations would never have entered his mind. Unfortunately, nowadays, as a result of misleading information, some parents are confused about the issue and do not realize the importance of vaccinations. A cursory review of the origins of vaccination in medical and rabbinical literature may provide some perspective on the issue.
In the late eighteenth century, smallpox decimated the population of Europe. Millions of people died from the disease, and a high percentage of children were afflicted. In the eighteenth century alone, an estimated 400,000 Europeans died each year. When potential relief from the horrors of the disease came on the horizon, there must have been unabashed excitement. The cure, or, more accurately, the mechanism of disease prevention, however, was unique in the history of medicine: it required exposing healthy individuals to disease, hopefully a mild form, in order to prevent the development of a more serious disease. The procedure involved the removal of fluid from the pox of an afflicted patient, and the subsequent injection of that virulent fluid into the body of a healthy individual. Scientists believed that the healthy person injected with the fluid would develop a mild, non-fatal form of smallpox, and would therefore be spared the likelihood of fatality if later exposed to the spontaneous form. This was indeed the case the majority of the time, but the procedure was not without risk; some of those inoculated developed the severe form of the disease, and died as a result (an estimated 0.5 to 2 percent). In fact, there is a tombstone in Long Island, New York, with the following epitaph:
In Memory of Peleg,
Son of Thomas and Mary Conklin, who died of the smallpox inoculation
Jan. 27th, 1788, aged 17 years
In 1785, Rabbi Avraham ben Shlomo Nansich published a small pamphlet entitled “Aleh Terufah,” detailing the tragic loss of two of his children to smallpox and beseeching the rabbis of his generation to allow inoculation.
However, the treatment was considered controversial at the time, as never in the history of mankind had one taken a healthy individual and injected him with the very cause of an illness, even if the objective was to prevent a more severe disease. This unique treatment posed a dilemma for the Torah-observant Jew. The Torah gives license to the physician to heal the sick, but does it give him license to bestow illness upon the healthy, albeit for an ultimate cure? The debate about the medical and theological aspects of smallpox inoculation occupied a significant chapter in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century history.
Rabbis of that time debated the issues and were well aware of the risks associated with vaccination. Rabbi Israel Lifschutz, author of the Tiferet Yisrael commentary on the Mishnah, argued in favor of inoculation despite its known risks. In his view, the benefits clearly exceeded the risks. Other prominent rabbis advocated vaccination as well, including Rabbi Mordechai Banet (1753-1829), Rabbi Eliezer Fleckeles (1754-1826) and Rabbi Ishmael HaKohen (1723-1811).
An additional halachic issue arose with regard to the practical dissemination of the inoculation. In the early days of inoculation, the injections were performed by barber-
surgeons, who traveled from town to town. They often spent only a few hours in each location. The question therefore arose as to whether one could receive the inoculation on Shabbat, if that happened to be the only time it was offered. The halachic discussions touched on two issues. The first issue related to the exact nature of the prohibition associated with the injection. Halachic distinctions were drawn between injections made under the skin (subcutaneous), as opposed to those made directly into the vein (intravenous). The second, more fundamental, issue was the determination of the halachic status of the healthy patient receiving the injection. The violation of Shabbat is permitted only for patients who are technically considered ill, and the level of violation allowed is commensurate with the severity of the illness. While patients in need of receiving inoculation are not technically ill, the debate was whether they should nonetheless be considered in the halachic category of a “choleh she’ain bo sakanah” (one experiencing a non-life-threatening illness), by virtue of their presence in an endemic area of life-threatening disease (see, for example, Teshuvah Meahavah 1:134; Zecher Yehosaf, OC 104; Shu”t Vela’asher Amar 15). This categorization of the patient would allow the violation of some prohibitions in the provision of treatment. If the patient receiving the inoculation was not ascribed this status, no Shabbat violation would be permitted. After much deliberation, a number of posekim allowed the inoculation of healthy individuals on Shabbat, which entailed possible Shabbat violation, in order to protect them from exposure to smallpox.The more crude inoculation for smallpox was soon replaced with the scientifically tested vaccination of Edward Jenner, which inoculated patients with the cowpox virus in order to protect them from smallpox. More than 200 years have passed since Jenner’s discovery, and the effectiveness of vaccination is now beyond question. In fact, the discovery of vaccination is on virtually every top ten list of the greatest discoveries in the history of medicine, appearing as number one on many of them. While there is no way to know how many lives have been saved globally as a result of vaccinations for diseases such as smallpox, diphtheria, measles, polio, pneumococcus and influenza, tens of millions would be a very conservative estimate. Indeed, smallpox, the first disease for which vaccination was used, has been virtually eradicated from the face of the earth.
However, while the side effects of vaccinations—including death—are rare, they are also well documented. Despite these foreseen consequences, scientific research has proven that the risk-benefit analysis weighs very heavily in favor of vaccination. The side effects must be viewed in the context of general medical practice. The issue of assuming risk and self-endangerment is the substance of many halachic discussions, but the assumption of some risk in the pursuit of medical treatment is an accepted fact. There is arguably not a single form of treatment, from Tylenol to chemotherapy, which is free of side effects—many of them serious. Yet the obligation to seek a cure and prevent disease remains in full force, despite the risks. To be sure, each treatment requires its own risk-benefit statistical analysis.
Anecdotal accounts of vaccinations leading to other conditions, such as autism, do exist. But these are not well-documented, scientifically proven side effects. To date, these claims have not been substantiated by rigorous scientific study. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine performed a thorough study on the hypothesis that vaccines, and, in particular, the mercury they contained, were causally related to autism. Its published findings, entitled “
http://www.ou.org/index.php/jewish_action/article/46479/
Anonymous said...
Rabbi Goldberg please answer these questions already, Enough of your HIStory lessons. kashrus 1 said...
Where you not a memeber of the vaad at that time as well ?
What Moderna shuls are there in Flatbush ?
What Rabbonim does the Vaad answer to ?
Who establishes Vaad policy ?
Who are the field mashgiachim ?
Is the Vaad a non profit or a Not for Profit ?
Rabbi Goldberg AKA anonymous
THESE ARE CURRENT ISSUES THAT NEED ANSWERS
Rabbi Goldberg answer please
Tue Feb 21, 06:39:00 PM 2012
Anonymous said...
"What moderna shuls in Flatbush?"
Are you nuts? There are tons.
You were already told the big powerful one Kingsway.
Most of the Young Israels (some have yeshivishe rabbis like Bedford Bay so those rabbis would not be Vaad members)
There are many old shuls down Ocean Parkway, Coney Island Ave, Ocean Ave, Nostrand Ave, Ave J, Kings Hwy.
Sheepshead & Brighton is also Flatbush for Vaad purposes. There are also old shuls for that purpose in Mill Basin, East Flatbush, Canarsie, Flatlands, etc.
Rabbi Goldberg's son who learned in NIRC Baltimore is the chief field rep.
Tue Feb 21, 08:45:00 PM 2012
Thank you for the update !
The only name mentioned here is Rabbi Goldberg's son.
Why don't you provide a list of names of Rabbonim and the shuls they are associated with ? Is it that you can't or wont ?
What are you trying to hide?
Chief field rep or only field rep ?
what about names of mashgiachim that are sent out to catering events ?
There's a possibility that the most recent poster getting on the Flatbush Vaad's case is the perpetual nudnik "you know who" at the Queens Vaad. Besides being a yenta (even as he pretends to be the Velt's machmir on lashon horah), he is certainly interested in the temples as the Queens Vaad considers the whole Long Island as their turf and other hashgochos out there as interlopers. It must bug the Queen$ Vaad that they have to compete out there on temple catering with Star K, Chof K, Flatbush Vaad.
There are several similarities between "kashrus 1" and the Queens Vaad's C.S., including that C.S. is known to add the number one to his email addresses.
The eradication of smallpox may have been the greatest feat of medical science. Smallpox is estimated to have killed more people than any other disease in history, approximately 300 million people in the 20th century alone. It kills about one third of all infected people. This disease was the scourge of the world for millennia and then it was gone. Thanks to the World Health Organization, there has not been a singe naturally occurring case of smallpox since 1977 and there has been no need to immunize against the disease in the United States since 1972.
With this in mind, it is possible to understand the horror that civilized people feel when considering the possibility that smallpox could be used as a biological weapon by terrorists or rogue nations.
Interestingly, Edward Jenner created the very first modern vaccine in 1796 to combat smallpox when he inoculated the first person with cowpox (a related, but much more benign disease), creating immunity to smallpox. Since that time, we have developed many vaccines against many deadly infectious diseases, particularly deadly childhood diseases.
Vaccination Risks
While vaccination has led to the virtual eradication of a host of deadly diseases such as polio, whooping cough, diphtheria, and measles, vaccination still remains controversial for some. This is primarily because vaccinations are not without side effects. People have long weighed the risks of preventive vaccination against the risk of deadly disease. Even before Jenner introduced the vaccinia smallpox vaccine (essentially the same vaccine we use today), people would deliberately infect themselves with smallpox via the skin with material taken from sufferers of smallpox, with the hope of developing a milder case of the disease. Faced with the virtual certainty of catching severe, natural smallpox, many people sought out this procedure, called 'inoculation,' which had an approximately .5-2% mortality rate. This was considered better than the expected mortality rate of about 30% from wild smallpox.
Despite the significant statistical advantage of immunization over disease, as a general rule, no one wants to be responsible for directly causing the injury or death of someone else. While the risk of death from a contagious disease may be high, it can be viewed as a random event. The parent who agrees to allow their child to be immunized is doing a definitive physical action that could bring harm to their child. There are even some Jews who oppose vaccination because of the Biblical command of "walk simply before the Lord, your God," which means "walk with Him in simplicity and anticipate His support, and do not delve into the future."
In Jewish law, this is the issue of "shev v'al taaseh" -- sit and do not act -- versus "maaseh" -- choose the proactive response. Generally, if the outcome of action versus inaction each has a significant downside, we opt for inaction. For this reason, some parents, both Jewish and non-Jewish, object to immunizing their children.
But this rationale only makes sense if the risks are equivalent. If the risk of disease far exceeds the risk of vaccination (which is usually the case), then the maaseh (action) is usually preferable.
For this reason, we assume that not immunizing our children for fear of complications is irrational. But that is only because we consider the risk of disease to be so much higher than the risk of immunization, that we consider the latter risk to be inconsequential.
It is important to emphasize that vaccination is permitted, even when there is a small risk of death from the vaccine. In fact, in the 19th century, Rabbi Yisroel Lipshutz, known as the Tiferes Yisroel, ruled that the smallpox vaccine is permitted, despite the risk of death. Interestingly, he also lists Edward Jenner as a "righteous gentile" for the development of the smallpox vaccine that saved hundreds of thousands of lives. It is important to note that the Tiferes Yisroel wrote at a time when smallpox was still a major killer, dwarfing any side effects of the vaccine by the tremendous number of deaths from the disease. Rabbi Lipshutz's ruling was true when many contagious diseases such as smallpox were common. But is it still true when immunization has virtually eliminated the incidence of these diseases? When risk of dying of the disease decreases to the point of being less than or equal to the risk of dying of the immunization, what is the proper course?
Jewish law would certainly insist that any possible methods of reducing the risks associated with vaccination be implemented. Additionally, once the risk of disease has sufficiently declined, the risk of vaccination is no longer justified. Nevertheless, we must take into account that the risk of disease reemergence might justify continued immunization.
For this exact reason, the United States has recently switched from the oral Sabin vaccine, which has a 2-4 in a million chance of causing polio, to the less powerful, but safer, Salk vaccine because the risk of polio from the oral vaccine approached the risk of acquiring wild polio. This will be discussed in greater depth later.
If everyone else is doing it, why should I?
Once the risk of infection from a communicable disease becomes very small, we are faced with another question. If everyone around me is immunized, should I accept the risk of immunization? As the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine (April 2001) explains:
"Herd immunity, the concept of decreased infection in susceptible
http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48943486.html
"There's a possibility that the most recent poster getting on the Flatbush Vaad's case is the perpetual nudnik "you know who"
Aye. Nudnik numero UNO dba Spotlight.
Please take your pills.
Its not about a vaccination that maybe one of your "nutty" gurus are against.
These nuts have Chaim Schwartz on the brain 24 hours a day. They wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat and check under the bed to make sure Chaim is not hiding there. I wouldn't be surprised if they believe Chaim actually was behind 9/11.
You guys really need a life. Or a good shrink. Or both.
Whoever it may beasking these questions, who cares?
Why doesn't Goldberg answer the questions posted ?
Who other than him who are the rabbonimon the Vaad? PLEASE GIVE NAMES and affiliations.
Who are the field mashgiachim?
Who are the catering establishment mashgiachim ?
Who establishes Vaad policies ?
What establishments have the Vaad as the exclusive hashgocha ?
Go do your own research if you want to know so bad about Flatbush Vaad unless you want to pay $5 a word to avail yourself of my services.
Lazy Bum sounds like Goldberg ?
There is no information on the Vaad ?
No website.Just a phone number.
No one knows.
KIC wont divulge any information either.
Why ?
Perhaps we should ask Morrel
'Why ?'
Some one is VERY frustrated.
frustrated NOT ! just curious !!
KIC will never say anything negative about rabbonei machshir, even those who do a lousy job, unless the rabbi in question is either modern orthodox or is the rov of a modern shul located OUTSIDE of Brooklyn.
They will NEVER ruffle the feathers of yeshivish and chassidish rabbonim that are local. They finally faced the facts one day that they didn't have a choice but to come down hard on Gornish and Babad, which they did secretly. It is an avlah that they waited so many years to take action and they didn't correct all of the problems, only some.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/241718#.T9VrN7BDx8E
A surprise inspection at the Holon slaughterhouse revealed a serious violation of halacha (Jewish law), Maariv reports. Sudanese workers were left in charge of treating meat to make it kosher, with nobody on hand to supervise the process as required.
The rabbi in charge of the slaughterhouse has reportedly fired the kashrut supervisor on whose watch the incident occurred. Meat that had been out at the time was labeled non-kosher.
George Gross is a known in the social circles of brooklyn. People that know him don't trust him and the kashrus issue with Negev comes as no surprise.
People who "stand up" for him do so because they like the food. But from an ethical standpoint, I know personally that he cut corners to make an extra dime.
He admits it to his friends and there is no boosha involved. It sickens me and if you knew him, you would not give him dan likaf zchus...regardless if Rabbi Goldberg is involved and people have some issues with him.
Call a spade a spade!
The real Spade here is that YOU hate him.
The other Spade is that your chicken to identify yourself.
So who should we not trust?
http://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/wp-content/uploads/satmar-filter.jpg
A little hypocritical, nisht?
When customers asked George's manager Alex at Negev, nu nu so there was a falling out with the Flatbush Vaad after 45 years. But why do you also no longer have the hashgocho of Rav Mendelson from Boro Park? Was Alex lying himself or was he parroting a lie that George told him that Rav Mendelson "retired"? Rav Mendelson still certifies other places around town.
You can attack Rabbi Goldberg all you want but we see right through you, George.
I am really disgusted by that tzettl from Satmar d'Lakewood. What right do they have to be meramez to the possuk of Haporetz geder where Shlomo Hamelech is mekalel that someone should be bitten by a snake? The Kadmonim say it goes on someone who reads a private letter after ripping open a sealed envelope.
I am really disgusted by.....
No one asked you to support them in any way.
There are Democrats. There are Republicans.
There are Normal people and there are abnormal people.
There is yeshivah people and there is Satmar.
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