Tuesday, May 01, 2012

The AIDAH Yerushalem tread$ on new turf

מאושר  APPROVED !????

When a product does not meet the strict guidelines of the Aidah, but there are leniencies that can be relied upon, etc it becomes מאושר approved not under the Hashgocha per se.

e.g. Frozen checked strawberries from China, the Aidah will not certify it for home use, but for commercial use (food service / bakeries) it will most likely be baked or cooked so it will be nisrasek....it becomes approved.

Let's see how many hundreds of items may fall into the new category. Will they be "mi'asher", bitul bi'shishim, kitnious she'nish'tanu, linas lai'lah, aino ben yomoi, pas palter, etc?

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Disappointed in the Aidah that they allow anything from the Chinese who cannot be trusted whatsoever.

And what is to stop a bakery from decorating a cake with the strawberries or a caterer using them in a jello?

Anonymous said...

Yudel,
Have you been to China, I mean all of China?
Do you know for a fact that China has the same bugs as in the US, & on strawberries?
Are you aware that China allows impestisides that the US doesn't? Albeit the chemicals may kill chamirah sacanta meisurah, However I will not accept a blanket statement that Chineese strawberries are infested without a back up of facts.

Yungerman said...

From what I understand, "מאושר" (approved) is only used on non-food items, where the Eidah doesn't have any hashgacha on the product, however they've looked into the suitability of the kosher consumer using it.

Do you have a copy of the packaging where the Badatz "approved" Chinese strawberries?

A Mashgiach Who Cares said...

R. Yudel wrote about Chinese strawberries:
"the Aidah will not certify it for home use, but for commercial use (food service/bakeries) it will most likely be baked or cooked so it will be nisrasek....it becomes approved".
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Anybody taking the trouble to read the “Madrich Hakashrus” of the Aidah, can see that this allegation is inaccurate, both in regard to home use, and also with regard to commercial use.

They do not give blanket approval at all to whole strawberries, on the assumption that it will be baked or cooked. Rather, their mashgichim inspect the whole strawberries, and they then require the strawberries to undergo cooking and crushing, before allowing it to be added to their products. Thus they aren’t relying on the *likelihood* that it will be “nisrasek”, rather they actually ascertain the fact, before approving it to be added to their products.

As for home use, they give detailed instructions how strawberries may possibly be used for home use, and conclude with a general ruling, that "foods containing strawberries which were prepared by grinding or baking and cooking, the food is allowed". This leaves the kosher consumer with various options for home use.

See here (Vol. 61, 5771, pp. 150):
http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=50887&st=&pgnum=150&hilite=

במאפיות וקייטרינגס שבהשגחת הבד״צ נאסר השימוש בתות שדה טרי.

במוצרי תעשיה - רק לאחר בדיקת מומחים מטעמנו כפי הוראת הרבנים ־ ועוברים בישול וריסוק.

(כמויות גדולות מהבדיקות נפסלו ולכן יש מחסור במוצרי תות).

מאכלים עם תות שהוכנו כבר ע״י טחינה או אפיה ובישול, המאכל מותר.

[Partial] translation:

In bakeries and catering services under the supervision of the Badatz, the use of fresh strawberries has been banned.

In industry products, [they are permitted] only after being inspected on our behalf by experts appointed by us, as instructed by the rabbis - and are cooked and crushed.

(Large quantities of those inspected [strawberries] were rejected and therefore there is a lack strawberry products).

Foods containing strawberries, which were prepared by grinding or baking and cooking, the food is allowed.

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Anonymous said...

The aidah just did a production of Strawberries in China. It only is acceptable if it's cooked or blended, so they can only sell it to the commerial market, as they can rely on the additional "nisrasek".