Wednesday, February 19, 2014

UPDATE: The yeshivish Matzah bakery ? The "oilum" is gullible, we'll tell them we are doing .....and the fools will believe us, & we'll do what we want, it's all $$$$$$$


The Bakery is fully convinced they can continue in fooling the gullible oilum. If this would be their last lie, I might be fooled in believing them also.

Whoever uses them are not bigeder "oinis" but a "maizid".

Oats are heated or steamed to remove the bitterness. It's a very big concern for Pesach, They must kasher the entire bakery after making the Oat Matzos.

There is a Pesach Matzah Bakery very much utilized by Chaburas, Roshei Yeshiva, Yeshiva Leit etc.

One very prominent Rosh Yeshiva with his chaburah realized lo and behold, they are putting in matzos into the oven even after the 18 minute deadline. When the owner was confronted, he responded "Oh! we put those aside for our lubavitch customers" (they allow up to 21-22 minutes).

The Rosh Yeshiva observed that those Matzos actually were being packed in with his Chaburas Matzos. He was shocked by the revelation. Reb Dovid Feinstein, Shlita when asked, responded "it's definitely not Mehudar"-Matzos. To his family allegedly he said, I wouldn't use the Matzos.

The Rav Hamach$hir wa$ not concerned in the $lightest. Is it the money, ....... or something else?

One can come to his own conclusions as what happens by Non-Chaburah Matzos.

If one wants to use that Matzah Bakery, he should insist that  they kasher the ovens, the paddles that used to remove the 22 minute matzos, etc

They also produce Oat-Matzos, which has their own pesach concerns. They "MUST" kasher the entire Matzah bakery after making the Oat Matzos?

All of the Rabonim named on the Matzos may not realize the seriousness of the matter.

Do Chaburas & Roshei yeshiva have on their Chabuarah any experts in the practical part of baking matzos.
Chaburah?, may not be the solution, it may be the problem
חבורה, מכה הכתובה בתורה




35 comments:

jj said...

http://moshemoshel72.blogspot.com/2013/04/truly-shas-hashmad.html?m=1

Anonymous said...

Did Lakewood kasher the bakery after making the Oat Matzos?
Oat Matzos for Pesach are very questionable.

Anonymous said...

Lets see Lakewood Has Corrupt Askanim/Mosrim, Corrupt Botei Dinim,and so Now we Find out there are Problems with The Matzahs To?

Anonymous said...

R' Yudel, this is common practice in many charedi bakeries see the following excellent article

http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-MachineMatzohs.htm

Shveig nisht! said...

Why didn't you say anything before Pesach?
There was a slight rumor but midshaski rabonon...

Anonymous said...

"The Rosh Yeshiva observed that those Matzos actually were being packed in with his Chaburas Matzos".
That is a LIE, I was there and that never happened. The Matza was separated by the owner himself, and taken away. The issue was never about anyone being mislead or cheated. Go back to talking about bugs.

Anonymous said...

I used to think that Chicago had the monopoly on "yeshivishe"

Anonymous said...

The Baltimore Matza bakery had to close up after it was discovered that the public was being fooled, even though the Star-K said there is no problem.

Just because one of the certifiers says it's ok doesn't mean that the customers have to remain customers.

Anonymous said...

Has the Star K ever admitted there is a problem with ANYTHING?

Using appliance computers on Shabbos that ALL gedolei Yisroel are against?

Ouri's catering?

Cafe K?

Catering with chilul Shabbos?

Catering gay "marriage" parties?

Anonymous said...

After making oats. There is nothing that actually needs kashering. Until oven its all cold. Just needs cleaning which they do. The oven itself does libun. So no kashering to discuss.

Anonymous said...

I was there when the rosh hayeshiva was there and the owner of the bakery was putting any matzas that came even close to 18 minutes away for non pesach use

Anonymous said...

And which ones was he putting away for the lubabs?
And where are those matzos that he told Roshei Yeshiva he's putting away for after pesach? Try to locate them.

Did he sell those put away matzos with his chometz?

Don't be naive?

Letz said...

If they want to straighten out this matzah bakery they should bring in Burich Teitelbaum from KJ and his crew of Romanisher gypsies

Anonymous said...

The Lakewood Matzo Bakery this year, out of consideration for the workers, supplied WARM water in the hand washing sinks. The M"B says that we should use COLD water as to not warm up the hands of the workers.
The "mashgiach" looked primarily concerned with efficiency not Kashrus.

Anonymous said...

He didn't sell them with the Chomatz, he sold them for good money to the Lubabs, Vishnitz, Badatz of the Eida, Landau of BB. and all the other Hasgachas that starts counting the 18 min from the table.

Anonymous said...

JUST IN TIME .
We need those matzos for YOM KIPPUR

Anonymous said...

The problem of Lakewood is that people are being misled as if we have the best kashrus when in actuality we are the at the bottom of the barrel.
I'm still waiting for a call back from Weisner for a few of my calls from a few years ago.

Anonymous said...

Thought the Queens guys are the bottom of the barrel.

Anonymous said...

Yudel, was your email virused something to do with Ttzedokah?

Anonymous said...

Some of the kashrus nonsense by Queens Vaad you would expect from a Rabbi Israel Mayer Steinberg or a Conservative hashgocho. Lakewood Vaad on a bad day can still be better than Queens Vaad on a good day.

And the petty corrupt & immature way of acting from Queens Vaad when frequently going after their critics is definitely the worst. You have to know the personalities behind this.

Queens Vaad don't bite as hard however as Star K and OU the select times that those big hashgochos come after their own critics.

The OK has a different shtick that they fire off lawyer letters to keep people quiet.

Anonymous said...

B'H.

The Queens guys win again.

Anonymous said...

Remember in CASHRUS its all about the $$$$$. Weisner is a direct recipient of cash. Then again they all are. Sad thing about kashrus is IT'S ALL TREIF AND CROOKED !!!!

What a fraud he is said...

"Sad thing about kashrus......"

Our "ANONYMOUS" tzadik'el, who blogs, surfs and who knows what else he does there, live on 'salt and water' only.

Anonymous said...

"Queens guys win again"

The VHQ keep pulling the wool over the eyes of the oylam with their "mehadrin" bubba maissas

And no one knowledgable is falling for the story that one of the districts is better now that you fired a bumbling rosh hamashgichim. A lot of the bad metzius in your kashrus comes from orders from the top even if the former supervisor was a shlemazel.

Anonymous said...

Lubavitch makes their own chaburos. They would not rely on that liar or anyone else to bake for them.

These liars always have prepared lies, mamash tzugegrait sheker. But if you think about it for a second, the excuses don't add up.

Like Moish Finkel with his "low sodium salt"

Anonymous said...

The information in this post is important, but not very useful if you do not state about which matzah bakery you are writing. Please let us know which bakery it is so that people will not be nich'shal. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

The information in this post is important, but not very useful if you do not state about which matzah bakery you are writing. Please let us know which bakery it is so that people will not be nich'shal. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Is this a post from the same person that got caught by AK?

need 'chabborah' matzaos only said...

No one ever said the matzahs are Kosher for pesach. All the Rosh
Yeshivahs and others say is : "These matzahs are Chaboorah Matzahs". That 100% true.
I was looking for regular (not for Passover) 'Chaboorah' matzahs
but couldn't find any for 'love or Money.

Anonymous said...

oats aren't one of the 5 minim.

Anonymous said...

if u want to no if its kosher ask mr meyer

Anonymous said...

Oats IS accepted by most current poiskim as one of 5 minim. There is a lot of talk to undo this but for those that MUST use it, its good according to most. HOWEVER, for us regular guys, when it comes to 'd'oiraisahs' its best not to use Oats for the Seder.

Anonymous said...

yudel im not sure what your problem is. every year after pesach coop sells the matzos at a discounted price and they really taste good when you eat them with liver. I usually buy enough to last till shavous. All it is is flour and water so there shouldn't be any problem with kashrus. it goes well with peanut butter also

Anonymous said...

Your hatred of the Lakewood Rabonim is so obvious. Kestenbaum says they heat the Oats, it is made in Pupa Matza bakery in Brooklyn and you don't say a word. Lakewood says it doesn't heat the Oat, you have no proof otherwise, but they lie and should kasher the bakery.

Anonymous said...

reb chaim epstein is not going back.

yankel fun mikkeys kave shteeb