Wednesday, June 12, 2013

Kashrus alert: Don't use Alle "ptcha-bones"

Kashrus alert: Alle "ptcha-bones" used for "ptchah"  Gallah (Aspic)

Some of the bones have a large blood vessel that must be removed prior to salting. It's too often still attached by the Alle ptcha bones. There is no "shishim" by the bone V the coagulated blood vessel.

Therefore one should not use those ptcha bones until Alle rectifies the situation.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are the veins in the knee or adjacent to it.

Pictures?? Better yet - pictures of Alle's knees with the vein??



Anonymous said...

vus zugt der nirbater ruv?

Anonymous said...

Jackabowitz is a knee bone

Anonymous said...

Shoulder not knee, we do not use the achoryaim where the "knee" is located. In Europe and in E"Y not everyone took out the veins they just cut them. I think there must be shishim although I never measured.

FYI, I know nikur and I do not work for ALLE I am just pointing this out Lman HaEmes.

Anonymous said...

To anon 2:24,

We do not all agree all of the time but let us be mikadesh shem shamayim not C'V mechalel.

Anonymous said...

I am confused. Since jackabowitz stepped in nothing is treibered. Why all of a sudden do you worry about a vein in a bone ?

A world without YeshivaWorld said...

Is Alle from the people that Eckstein said he would "bring to their knees"?

Anonymous said...

You the Moderna litvisha "Shabbos Goy" From Lakewood, are Going To Teach The Gur, Gur, Frimma Yidden In Villiamsburg about Kashris. Dis Is ah Chitzpah!!

Anonymous said...

"FYI, I know nikur and I do not work for ALLE"

Rabbi Gornish?

Anonymous said...

Is this seriously what you are worried about? What the people that have been eating tarfus every day because of the alle nikur? As long as they are making money nothing will change. There is no yiras shomayim there. from the management to the menakrim.

Anonymous said...

Until the nirabator gets rid of jackabowitz, ALLE will never be taken seriously again. Not by the shochtim,not by the bodkinot by the mashgichim and certainly not by the public.

Anonymous said...

Call The Vaad Harabonim of GOLDBERG.

He has all the answers on trybering and Cashiers at Glatt Mart

Kew Gardens said...

In Queens the problem is the funny bone.

Say one word to expose any shortcoming in kashrus here and 'you know who' at the Vaad starts jumping up & down as if you whacked his funny bone mit a hammer.

Not Goldberg said...

George Gross, did you have the same goy prepare the ptcha that you had broiling the livers at Negev Ave J without watching him?

Chossid of C.S. said...

Because the leg bone's connected to the knee bone & the knee bone's connected to the funny bone ...

Say a prayer for Rabbeinu

Pied Piper of Baltimore-Flatbush said...

The reason why Rabbi Goldberg "doesn't get it" at Glatt Mart is because he naively believes whatever Star K tells him. He has shimush from Star K in shechita & bedika and his son who is VHF's man in the field is a musmach of Ner Yisroel Baltimore. The Baltimore oylam is farkoyfed on Star K and no matter what Star K does, the whole population there is under a spell or something that Star K can do no wrong.

Anonymous said...

The reason why Rabbi Goldberg "doesn't get it" at Glatt Mart is because the cashier was fired . his son who is VHF's man in the field is as oisvarf of Ner Yisroel Baltimore

Anonymous said...

Goldberg is like the story from la start thinking Ot vey

Chumetz said...

http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=24621&alias=string-puts-matzos-in-question

Yudel, how did you miss this story that came out right before Pesach?

Anonymous said...

http://wholewheatmatzah.com/index.php/about-our-matzahs

Rabbi Landau’s “Hechsher” is known for its very high standards and well controlled systems.

In addition to the strict practices at Shmura Matzah Bakeries , Rabbi Landau implemented a number of extra measures to safe guard from the of inevitable human errors and make the most “MEHUDAR” Matzahs for Pesach.
Every employee is a Shomer Shabbos.
Separate Mashgichim for the production area with the rolling tables, and a separate Mashgiach at the oven inspecting all the baked Matzoth for folded or not entirely baked Matzos, and remove them.
The Mashgiach inspects each person’s hands and nails prior to entering the production area and between each 18 minute run.
Two men work the oven: one puts the Matzos in, while the second takes them out. This to prevent Matzos from being left idle for not even a few seconds.
Mashgichim are respectable rabbis, who trained first in the previous year’s bake and just before the baking commenced this year were tested by Rabbi Landau on the laws for matzos.

matzos said...

Yehuda is where KAJ makes their machine matzos

http://bennypowersisraeltours.com/2012/03/15/a-trip-to-the-matzah-factory-pt-ii-hand-made-matzos/

The great medieval scholar, the Ro”sh ruled that dough left for “any amount of time” is suspected of having begun to rise. Rav Gil once asked the esteemed Rabbi Elyashiv (shlit”a) {ztl} what the proper definition of “any amount of time” is, to which he responded “half a minute”. On our production run, all the workers were careful not to leave the dough unworked for even thirty seconds.

matzos said...

http://yediah.blogspot.com/2006/04/good-old-days-soft-and-fresh-matzos.html

David Guttmann

I am a businessman living in Brooklyn. I spent time at Slabodka in Bnei Brak and Beth Medrosh Elyon in Monsey during the Sixties.

Rabbi Kafieh, who was the greatest Yemenite Gaon of our times, wrote a lot documenting the customs of the community he came from especially the city Sana’a, the capital of Yemen. He wrote a sefer Halichot Teiman, which is a worthwhile read if one is interested in the customs of different communities. As we know the community in Yemen dates back to the second temple and, having lived in almost total isolation until the great Aliyah after the founding of the State of Israel, has retained ancient Minhagim.As time went on there was an infiltration of outside influence, Rambam was one of their heroes, and Kabbalah took some strong roots, although not without controversy. However old customs survived, many unchanged from early days.

R. Kafieh reports that on Pessach, Yemmenite Jews baked their Matzos fresh daily. They were soft and easy to eat and very tasty – they were even salted. He adds a very interesting comment, paraphrasing the thoughts of a Yemmenite Jew: “HKBH knew that later generations as time goes on, will place more and more Chumros until they will forbid to bake on Pessach (we are machmir because on Pessach Chametz is bemashehu), that is why the Torah says only by Pessach among all the Yomim Tovim: Ach asher ye’ochel lechol nefesh hu levado Ye’osseh lochem”. That is the verse the Rabbis learned from that one is permitted to cook on Yom Tov. The choice of Pessach to indicate that, is to remind us not to apply the Chumros to the point of not baking fresh matzos.

R. Kafieh points out that in Yemen there never was a problem eating a Keza'ys matzoh. The Matzoh was fresh and tasty.

He also notes that the Afikoman was not stolen. They found other ways of keeping the children’s interest. Stealing was not considered a good idea when educating young children. It would seem that communities that adhered to old Jewish customs were machmir in bein odom lacheveiro and Meikil in bein odom lamokom.

London said...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WF9vJ0qzNBs/UUblSBx2nkI/AAAAAAAAAdU/HVSPP8ifDkA/s1600/Knopfler+Chickens.jpg

Who will self-destruct faster, RCC or Kedassia?

Anonymous said...

http://www.bhol.co.il/article.aspx?id=52745

עם סיום ימי הפסח, טרם תשליכו את אריזות המצות לפח האשפה, חשוב לדעת: יתכן וחלק מאריזות המצה טעונות גניזה.

הסיבה: תופעה חדשה, ובה רבים מיצרני המצות נוהגים לרשום על גבי הקופסה את רשימת ההידורים שנעשו במצות. כך למשל במצות קוממיות שרטטו על גבי האריזה את החומרות המיוחדות שנעשו במאפיה, המושתתות על הוראותיו של רב המושב הגר"ב מנדלזון זצ"ל ובנו הגרמ"מ זצ"ל. על גב האריזה מופיעה כיום חותמתו של הרב הנוכחי, רבי משה, בנו של הגרמ"מ, שנתן את ברכתו למהלך.

אך בעוד שמעיון מדוקדק בתוכן הדברים, ניתן להקל ולא לייחס להם את קדושה שתטעין אותם בגניזה, הרי שבאריזות של מצות החבורה של בית שמש ויד בנימין, מודפסים הידורים הכוללים הלכות רבות בדיני אפיית מצות.

הגראי"ל שטיינמן, שדבר המארזים הללו הובא לתשומת ליבו, בחן את הנושא, והגיע למסקנה הלכתית, כי אין להשליך את האריזות הללו לאשפה. "יש להזהיר את בני התורה, כי עליהם להטיל את אריזות המצות הללו לגניזה, שכן יש בו שולחן ערוך שלם של הלכות אפיית מצות!"

Anonymous said...

As the success of Manischewitz skyrocketed, it outgrew its quarters and found it necessary to move to New Jersey, to yet larger spaces. Around that time the Internal Revenue Service began to investigate why Manischewitz deducted its huge contributions to yeshivas as a business expense.

Off to court went Manischewitz. The company's attorneys claimed that the yeshiva graduates teach as rabbis in Palestine, Europe and South America. These yeshivahs have the name Manischewitz associated with them. The rabbis trained in them help to overcome the impression of Orthodox European Jews that American machine made matzo is not kosher, especially matzos for Passover. 70 percent of the company's income is derived from the sale of matzos for consumption during the Jewish festival of Passover. It was a business expense. Manischewitz won its cases with the IRS, setting some precedents in tax law that continue to this day.

Anonymous said...

Lmaase the Lutzke Rav shtells the best kiddush in town hands down

Anonymous said...

I hope you realize minhagei nikur are far from universal, many don't remove blood vessels.
There are 2 chutim in the tongue which in Eretz Yisrael they don't remove, here most shechitas do.
One must realize too, that dam hanefesh is deoraisah only. The other dam is derabanan, more so after it is cooked some shitos rishonim hold even dam hanefesh is no longer deorayso.
Most are not makpid on dam aivorim, shebishloi.
Even if you are machmir to remove those chutim, if one didn't according to most poskim, one could consume the food.
I think B4 you shout treif, you should learn for a first time or do chazorah of hilchos nikur, & minhagei nikur.
By all means be machmir, but accuse Mealmart of being a Finkel, if they chose to be maikel.
BTW I don't like the taste of Pitcha so I don't eat it, due to a previous high Cholesterol count I rarely eat red meat at all.