Monday, November 12, 2018

"TREIF "kosherica" tours R"L- Lakewood joins them R"L

Kosherica cruises has been machshil thousands in not providing kosher according to any standards.

Why Do the  Rabbis sanction these non-kosher cruises? 
Isn't it embarrassing that all of the Miami, Lakewood,  OU affiliated Rabbis are allowing this scandal 

Can someone like Rabbis Weil (OU), Schneier, Riskin, Heir, Herring, Lipskar arrange an "OU" Hashgocha at least?

Why doesn't the "OU" send their own staff on the cruises to witness the kashrus disaster.
Does the "OU" allow kashering a Griddle with hot water only? from treif, back & forth daily from meat to dairy?
Does the OU allow working side by side within the treif kitchen with no barriers?

We are challenging the "OU" the world's largest certifier to have their staff do a complete "on-site" inspection of Kosherica cruises- GO THE ENTIRE TRIP, PORT TO PORT.

Can Chazonim like Adler, Avrohom Fried, Helffgot, Lerner, Miller, Lipa Schmeltzer, Stark, Flam demand that a qualified kashrus organization run the kashrus? So there might be at least some level of kashrus.

Can Rabbis Miller, Benin, Zahler, Levi Teitelbaum, Manish Spitz, Ruvi New, Etc be comfortable and vouch for the kashrus on the cruises?

Is the gullible kosher consumer being taken for a ride or to the cleaners? Perhaps?

Check it out yourself!
When one advertises a glatt kosher cruise, is that sufficient to join without any verification? Is the fact they there popular Rabbis, Chazonim, Scholars in residence any level of comfort, as far as kashrus reliability is concerned?

Does well known Scholars in residence, sufficient to give any level of kashrus reliability is Concerned?

Does well known popular Chazonim (cantors) sufficient to give any level of kashrus reliability is Concerned?

Did any of them check out the level of kashrus if it's acceptable?
Is anyone of them capable to check out the kashrus level?

We are talking about a cruise liner with some 2500-5000 + guests, a crew of some 1500, 10 + stories, with some 50 to 300 kosher guests among the other 4-5000 people.

Can someone like Rabbis Weil (OU), Schneier, Riskin, Heir, Herring, Lipskar arrange an "OU" Hashgocha at least?

Can Chazonim like Adler, Avrohom Fried, Helffgot, Lerner, Miller, Lipa Schmeltzer, Stark demand that a qualified kashrus organization run the kashrus? So there might be at least some level of kashrus.

Can Rabbis Miller, Benin, Zahler, Levi Teitelbaum, Manish Spitz, Ruvi New, Etc be comfortable and vouch for the kashrus on the cruises?

For starters, A kosher certifier would need at large crew of Mashgichim for these cruises, not just 2. We question if it can be done at all-sometimes it's just not doable.
“There are many halachos one must consider before deciding to embark on a cruise,” adds Rabbi Goldberg. “Kashrus, tznius, Shabbos, and davening bring their own unique challenges onboard. Making sure that one is keeping those mitzvos properly would surely be a zechus (merit) to ensure one’s safety.”

Although, presently, STAR-K does not kosher certify any cruises, it would like to present just some of the several questions that Torah observant cruise passengers must face:

KASHRUS: What arrangements have been made to accommodate kosher food preparation? Is a kitchen dedicated to kosher food preparation, or has only a portion of a non-kosher kitchen been designated for kosher cooking? Will there only be a small percentage of the passengers who are kosher, making an especially problematic shared kosher and non-kosher situation more likely? Are you confident that everything will be cooked before Shabbos, and that the mashgichim will ensure that the staff follows the intricacies of the Shabbos laws of food preparation?

TZNIUS: Is it likely that your fellow passengers will show a lack of modesty, particularly if you are sailing to a sunny destination?

SHABBOS: Does the cruise leave within three days of Shabbos or Yom Tov, which Chazal have decreed is forbidden if the ship does not dock before Shabbos and remains in port during that Shabbos?

KABOLAS SHABBOS: How will you know when to accept Shabbos since, for security reasons, cruise lines are reluctant to release data to passengers and it is difficult to know exactly where the ship will be at any given moment?

ELECTRONICS: Will electronic cabin door locks, electric eye automatic door opening mechanisms, and sinks and toilets controlled by an electric eye, that have become commonplace on cruise ships, create a challenge on Shabbos?

SECURITY: If you return to the ship after a Shabbos stroll, can you be guaranteed that you will not set off alarms or lights at the metal detector? How will you get around showing your ticket (which may be muktza and forbidden to carry) and/or passport upon returning to the ship, so as not to cause Shabbos violations?


Anonymous said...

Reb Yudel why don't you go yourself and check it out ?

Lawrence of Arabia said...

"How will you know when to accept Shabbos since, for security reasons, cruise lines are reluctant to release data to passengers and it is difficult to know exactly where the ship will be at any given moment?"

If chalila someone was stuck in the midbar and lost track of time, the halacha is you pick a 25 hour period to keep Shabbos.

If you can do that in the midbar, it's not so veit to also apply it when you are gorging yourself on every taanug in oylam hazeh that cruise ships are famous for.

Anonymous said...

To the credit of the French, who are difficult to credit with anything good, many French citizens made a kiddush Hashem yesterday by being publicly moyche at a massive rally against toayvah that the new French Socialist government wants to allow two mishkav zachurniks to adopt children. The number of people being moyche was estimated by the organizers at 850,000 and by the government at 350,000, which probably means the real number was something like half a million.

If even the prusta French have the correct hashkofos at least in this area, how is it that Left Wing OU rabbis have signed the horrible letter inspired by Avi Weiss that two mishkav zachurniks should be allowed to adopt children & send them to yeshivos?

A fress gesheft mashgiach who cares said...

Shindler's frozen salmon fillets under the Volover Rov cost retail about $2 each.

When the label states "WILD CAUGHT", does that mean the Volover is not makpid on anisakis worms or is it false advertising, which may be the case anyway as wild fillets may generally be more expensive?

Anonymous said... pick a 25 hour period to keep Shabbos.......

Sounds like what the lost souls do on Metropolitan Avenue. They pick and choose hours, non exsisting Halachis and fantasy kosher standardss

Mertropolitan merry-go-round said...

fantasy kosher standardss

That's right, according to the Queens Vaad blogger, wanting to keep kosher in Queens is just a fantasy! And unfortunately with the unreliable Queens Vaad using mafia tactics to keep out hashgocho competition, that is the sad reality.

Straight from the horse's mouth at Mon Jan 14, 11:36:00 PM 2013

Anonymous said...


Why is it that you go after the OU guys on this cruise but are AFRAID to go after the Lubavichers who are there as well???
Is the OU just too nice. You know that they will ignore you but the Lubavichers will come after you? Or maybe
they'll do worse things to you?

Can you answer this right here on you blog?
Or are you afraid of that too???

teven ata maivey l"KG??? said...

... unreliable Queens Vaad....

When you or your 'holier then thou' mishpoocheh gets 'ah bissel fahr hingered' then the Queens Vaad is plenty reliable (as it always is).
The proof: They go to Queens Vaad establishments and not Burger King! - Guess it ain't too bad.

In other words he picks his hours (hungry or not)
picks his halachis (Queens Vaad good for me but not for internet readers). Picks his standards like which stores should have outside hashgacha or are better without hashgacha (like those other places in his area).

Chronicles of an OU mashgiach said...

I didn't know that West Side Kosher distributes food to cruise ship lines too!

Anonymous said...

It's true that Lubavitch plays hardball. They bullied stores in out of town cities that they will be boycotted if they sell the Yated.

That all changed though when Pinny Lipschutz stopped being a flag-bearer for the fetter R' Elya & Rav Schach and started acting like the best friend Lubavitch ever had.

All of a sudden, Lubavitch is in love with the Yated and Yated copy sales went through the roof.

Tarzan said...

If a cruise doesn't work there are other options.

There are African safaris with kosher food under the beis din of Johannesburg.

This is Rav Moishe Silberhaft from South Africa meeting with the King of Swaziland.

Gilligan's Island said...

"I personally know of 18 people that were thrown overboard from a Princess cruise ship"

Not nogaya mashgichim who are supposed to be in the kitchen. And no kashrus problems if they swim to a remote island where they can subsist on pineapple & coconut.

paskunyak said...

pineapple & coconut maybe, but papaya is a shayle of orla

Rubashkin Fresser said...

On the topic of Gilligan's Island, when Pesach Lerner organized the junket to Agri in Postville to supposedly inspect kashrus & humane standards, it must have been the U.S.S. Minnow he chartered to get there

Because it was a "3 hour tour" where the rabbonim got so in gantzen lost, all they had to comment was that Agri is "state of the art".

Yeshivishe shechita? said...

OU Crony Watch said...

OU Internal Struggles Leading To Showdown


Who’s running the show at the Orthodox Union these days?

Several OU lay & professional staff members say there is “chaos” & a leadership vacuum at the group that has prompted Harvey Blitz, a former president, to challenge the group’s current president, Simcha Katz, who is seeking another term.

No date has been set for the election, which was postponed last month. It is unusual for the group to have contested elections for its highest office.

Some officials of the group complain bitterly that Katz has an autocratic style, alienating some staff & lay leaders, and that though a lay leader himself, he is functioning as CEO.

Katz declined to be interviewed.

Rabbi Steven Weil holds the top professional position of EVP but in the last year has served primarily as the public face of the organization, speaking on Shabbat about 36 times a year as scholar-in-residence at congregations around the country.

Rabbi Steven Burg, who got high marks for directing NCSY, the OU youth arm, took over much of the administrative & personnel responsibilities of the parent organization as well, but was denied the top spot; he left earlier this month to head the New York office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

“There is chaos within our leadership,” a key staff member complained. “We are a multimillion-dollar organization with no chief professional at the helm.”

He cited as an example that the OU at first signed on to — and later withdrew its support for — a strong statement by its rabbinic group, the Rabbinical Council of America, endorsing the conviction last month of Satmar chasid Nechemya Weberman on child sexual abuse charges.

“We looked foolish,” said the staff member.

Katz agreed to sign on to the RCA letter, but after Weil received criticism from segments of the ultra-Orthodox community, the letter was removed from the OU website.

Described by others as bright, committed & “an extreme micro-manager with a clear vision & demanding style,” Katz has made the yeshiva tuition crisis a priority for the organization, with a focus on seeking state aid. He's said to have instituted innovations prior to becoming president, when he was chair of the OU kashrut division, which generates much of the organization’s budget & is believed to bring in more than $20 million profit a year.

There are complaints that the lay leadership has been entrenched for decades, and lacks checks & balance procedures; the lay leadership, sources say, operates in less than professional ways, using funds to pay for travel of family members. (Isn't that criminal for a non-profit?)

Harvey Blitz was elected president in the wake of the Rabbi Baruch Lanner sexual abuse scandal at NCSY, in 2001, and is credited with helping to restore the OU’s reputation.

He confirmed this week that he plans to seek the presidency again, but deferred discussing his reasons for now.

Steve Savitsky, who preceded Katz as president, supports a 2nd term for him, while others are hoping Blitz will win & “clean house,” according to one frustrated staffer.

Martin Luther Queens said...

I always get farblungered when I drive in Queens. The boro is street-names challenged,
what with avenues,crescents,roads, boulevards, and
dead-end alleyways. Of course there's the scenic
Van Wyck (expressway!), the speedy L.I. expressway,and the loopy Belt Parkway. From Metropolitan and Woodhaven avenues to the Yellowstone park and Lefferts blvds, from the soaring mountains of the hauntingly desolate tennis stadium of Forest Hills to the gleaming tombstones of Mount Hebron cemetery, LET FREEDOM RING! And when we are free from the shackles of the Queens Vaad's tyranny,then and only then will we be able to say in the words of

Anonymous said...


Der Kranke from QG (Queens) is also a self hater who loves to live in Queens eventhough 'er ken gornish fressen there.
Krankehs come in all shapes.

Anonymous said...

All the Queens Vaad propagandist can do is borrow a few lines from MLK, a communist & menuvol?

There is plenty to eat in Queens if you buy with non-VHQ hashgocho, like at Rosenblum's where all the VHQ hypocrites love to shop instead of patronizing the VHQ stores who they shake down for huge fees.

It's a no brainer why Rosenblum's therefore has reasonable prices that attract the hypocrites

Anonymous said...

According to Kedassia, the latest makeup of the beis din to "investigate" Halpern is R' Sariel Rosenberg (Bnei Brak), R' Avrohom Boruch Rosenberg (Monsey) & R' Naftoli Nussbaum (Yerushalayim).

Dayan Lichtenstein (London) is criticizing Kedassia for putting out Rav Nussbaum's name when he says he has information that Rav Nussbaum has no intention of getting involved.

Many British rabbonim are accusing Kedassia of a cover up.

R' Dovid Cohn & his Adas Yisroel kehilla of North Hendon have already resigned their membership in Kedassia and are trying to start a new charedi hashgocho service together with other soon to be former Kedassia affiliates. A distributor of chicken has already expressed interest in going under the new hashgocho.

Anonymous said...

The CEO's profile as posted on a business networking website

Chief Executive Officer
Beth Medrash Govoha
August 1996 – Present (16 years 6 months)Lakewood, NJ

Beth Medrash Govoha is an institution of higher education, with undergraduate and graduate schools that specialize in Talmudic studies.

Founder, Board Member
Torah Links
1997 – Present (16 years)New Jersey

Torah Links is the Jewish Outreach affiliate of Beth Medrash Govoha.

Founder, Member of Strategic Planning Committee
Center for Health, Education, Medicine, Dentistry (Chemed)
2006 – Present (7 years)Lakewood, NJ

The Center for Health, Education, Medicine and Dentistry is a Federally Qualified Health Center that provides primary health care to the uninsured and underinsured.

Board Member, Member of Strategic Planning Committee
Kimball Medical Center
2005 – Present (8 years)Lakewood, NJ

Kimball Medical Center, a hospital in Ocean County, NJ, is an affiilate of Barnabas Health

Cedarbridge Development Corporation
January 2000 – Present (13 years 1 month)Lakewood, N.J.

Cedarbridge Corporation is a developer of real estate in Lakewood, N.J. that is affiliated with Beth Medrash Govoha.

Founder, Member of Strategic Planning Committee
Lakewood Resource and Referral Center
January 2002 – Present (11 years 1 month)Lakewood, N.J.

The Lakewood Resource and Referral Center (LRRC) is a social service "one-stop" agency.

Executive Committee Member
Association for Advanced Rabbinical and Talmudic Schools (AARTS)
2011 – Present (2 years)New York

AARTS is a United States Department of Education recognized accreditor of institutions of higher education.

Founder, Board Member
N.J. Hand
2002 – Present (11 years)Lakewood, NJ

N.J. Hand is a developer of for sale affordable housing in Lakewood, N.J.

Commission Member
Governor’s Study Commission on New Jersey’s Nonpublic Schools
December 2009 – June 2010 (7 months)State of N.J.

The Governor’s Study Commission on New Jersey’s Nonpublic Schools was appointed to study and recommend a course of action that the State of N.J. could take to advance educational opportunities for nonpublic school students.

Commission Member
New Jersey-Israel Commission
January 2002 – December 2009 (8 years)Trenton, N.J.

The New Jersey-Israel Commission was established in 1989 to implement the goals of the Sister State Agreement - to promote the development of trade, culture and educational exchanges; encourage the development of capital investment and joint business ventures; and foster a spirit of cooperation between the citizens of the State of Israel and the State of New Jersey.

Aish HaTorah
1986 – 1991 (5 years)Jerusalem

Taught in Aish's Basics, Pre-Intermediate, Discovery and other programs.

Anonymous said...

What ever you can buy in rosenbooms you can buy in any bodega for a lot cheaper. Its all packaged stuff with hashgachas. The problem is with the other stuff......

Better not talk about someone who has nothing to do with Queens except to earn a living to feed his family outside of Queens.

Anonymous said...

I would ask Zweig, I heard he is a frequent cruiser........

Anonymous said...

There were some letzonim who were accepted to BMG over 25 years ago before standards were tightened who started being menagen that Gilligan's Island tune for Shir Hamaalos before bentching on Shabbos in the dining room. There were a few chuckles or surprised faces but otherwise no one knew where that niggun was from and everyone joined in including the rosh yeshiva who was at the seudah.

When the song was used a few years ago by the newspapers to poke fun at the joint OU-Young Israel-Chabad cover up for Rubashkin, it was even funnier for those who were BMG bochurim back in the day.

Anonymous said...

Here goes 'Yudel logic' again.

A cruise leaves port from Miami and its the Miami Rabbi's fault.

Are those Rabbis partners as well?

Do they also do Hashgachas for Peasach in "south florida @ a Golf Course"?
Or is it only Lakewood 'svitzers' that give Hashgachas in Stockton and such other places?

Anonymous said...

כָּל יְהוּדִי אוֹמֵר בּוֹקֶר וְעֶרֶב בִּקְרִיאַת שְׁמָע "וְלֹא תָּתוּרוּ אַחֲרֵי לְבַבְכֶם וְאַחֲרֵי עֵינֵיכֶם אֲשֶׁר אַתֶּם זוֹנִים אַחֲרֵיהֶם" וְכָתַב רַבֵּינוּ יוֹנָה (ספר שערי תשובה השער השלישי – אות ס"ד) "וְגַם רַבִּים נוֹקְשִׁים וְנִלְכָּדִים בְּחַלְּלָם הַחוּשִׁים הַנִּכְבָּדִים, חוּשׁ הָרְאוּת, וְחוּשׁ הַשֵּׁמַע. וְנֶאֱמַר עַל חוּשׁ הָרְאוּת (במדבר טו, לט) וְלֹא תָתוּרוּ אַחֲרֵי לְבַבְכֶם וְאַחֲרֵי עֵינֵיכֶם, הֻזְהַרְנוּ בָזֶה, שֶׁלֹּא יִסְתַּכֵּל אָדָם בְּאֵשֶׁת – אִישׁ וּבִשְׁאָר עֲרָיוֹת פֶּן יִוָּקֵשׁ בָּהֵן"

כָּתוּב בְּאוֹרְחוֹת חַיִּים בְּשֵׁם הַ"ר יוֹנֶה אָסוּר לְהִסְתַּכֵּל בְּאֵשֶׁת אִישׁ מִן הַתּוֹרָה שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר וְלֹא תָּתוּרוּ אַחֲרֵי לְבַבְכֶם וְאַחֲרֵי עֵינֵיכֶם וְאָסוּר לְהִסְתַּכֵּל בִּפְנוּיָה כְּלוֹמַר עַל אִשָּׁה רַוָּקָה, מִדִּבְרֵי קַבָּלָה שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר בְּרִית כָּרַתִּי לְעֵינָי וּמָה אֶתְבּוֹנֵן עַל בְּתוּלָה. וְכָל הַמִּסְתַּכֵּל בְּאֵשֶׁת אִישׁ מַכְשִׁיל וּמַכְחִישׁ כֹּח יִצְרוֹ הַטּוֹב וְהוֹדוֹ נֶהְפָּךְ עָלָיו לְמַשְׁחִית.

וְיֵשׁ אִסּוּר נוֹסַף מִן הַתּוֹרָהּ וְהוּא לְהַרְהֵר בְּאִשָּׁה כְּלוֹמַר לַחֲשֹׁב עָלֶיהָ מַחְשָׁבָה כל מחשב,ה ובפרט מחשבת תַּאֲוָה, וַאֲפִלּוּ היא פְּנוּיָה. וְחָמוּר הִרְהוּר פְּנוּיָה מִמַגַעָה שֶׁעַל הַהִרְהוּר עוֹבֵר בְּלָאו מִן הַתּוֹרָה שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (דְּבָרִים כג י) וְנִשְׁמַרְתָּ מִכֹּל דָּבָר רַע וּפֵרְשׁוּ רַזַ"ל (ע"ז כ:) שֶׁלֹּא יְהַרְהֵר בְּיוֹם וְיָבוֹא לִידֵי טֻמְאָה בְּלַיְלָה עכ"ל (עי' שו"ע אבן העזר אות א) טָעוּת הִיא לַחְשׁוֹב שֶׁשְּׁמִירַת עֵינַיִים זֶה רַק חוּמְרָא לַחֲסִידִים, אֵלָא יֵשׁ אִסּוּר לְהִסְתַּכֵּל עַל נָשִׁים וּבְכָל מַבָּט בְּאִשָּׁה, בֵּין צְנוּעָה וְכֹל שֶׁכֵּן שֶׁאֵינָהּ צְנוּעָה, יֶשׁ אִיסּוּר מֵהַתּוֹרָה.

יֵשׁ לָדַעַת בְּבֵרוּר בְּאֹפֶן מֻחְלָט שאֵין כָּאן חוּמְרָא וְאֵין כָּאן הַגְזָמָה אֵלָא יֵשׁ אִסּוּר מַמָּשׁ וזֶהוּ עִקָּר הַדִּין שֶאָסוּר לְהִסְתַּכֵּל עַל נָשִׁים. חוֹשְׁבִים שֶׁזֶּה "מוּגְזָם" "פָנַאטִי" "רַק לְקִיצוֹנִים" אֲבָל הָאֱמֶת הִיא שֶׁכֹּל אָדָם יְהוּדִי: חִילּוֹנִי, דָּתִי, חֲרֵדִי, מְחוּיָּיב עַל פִּי הַתּוֹרָה לִשְׁמוֹר עַל עֵינָיו וְלֹא לְהִסְתַּכֵּל עַל נָשִׁים. בְּדִיּוּק כְּמוֹ שֶׁהוּא נִזְהַר שֶׁלֹּא לְהַכְנִיס לְפִיו מַאַכְלֵי אִסּוּר, וְיוֹדֵעַ שֶׁאֵין זוֹ הַגְזָמָה לְחַפֵּשׂ כַּשְׁרוּת עַל כָּל סוּגֵי הָמָזוֹן, וּכְפִי שֶׁהוּא מַקְפִּיד לִשְׁמֹר עַל הַשַּׁבָּת, וְלָצוּם בְּיוֹם כִּפּוּר, מֵנִיחַ תְּפִלִּין, וּשְׁאָר מִצְווֹת הַתּוֹרָה, בְּדִיּוּק, כָּךְ צָרִיךְ לְהִזָּהֵר בִּרְאִיוֹת שֶׁל נָשִׁים, בַּבַּיִת וּבָרְחוֹב.

כַתָּוב בְּסֵפֶר "קַב הַיָּשָׁר" בְּשֵׁם הָאֲרִ"י הַקָּדוֹשׁ כִּי יֵשׁ עוֹף הַנִּקְרָא בְּתוֹרָה "רָאָה", וְאָמְרוּ חֲזַ"ל לְפִי שֶׁרוֹאֶה לְמֵרָחוֹק וּמַזְנֶה בְּכָךְ, וְלָכֵן הַפּוֹגֵם בְעֵינָיו וּמִסְתַּכֵּל בְּנָשִׁים עוֹנְשׁוֹ שֶׁיִּתְגַּלְגֵּל בְּעוֹף זֶה מִדָּה כְּנֶגֶד מִדָּה וְסוֹבֵל שָׁם צַעַר גָּדוֹל.

Anonymous said...

חוֹשְׁבִים לְעַצְמֵנוּ... "מָה כְּבָר עָשִׂינוּ הֲרֵי לֹא רָאִינוּ שׁוּם דָּבָר בְּכַוָּונָה סָךְ הַכֹּל עָבַרְנוּ בַּמִּדְרָכָה וּמִמּוּל עָבְרָה אִשָּׁה וְהִסְתַּכַּלְנוּ אָז מָה, סָךְ הַכֹּל אִשָּׁה..."
וְכָאן הטָּעוּת הַגְּדוֹלָה בְּיוֹתֵר לַחְשׁוֹב שֶׁזֶּה שׁוּם דָּבָר מִשּׁוּם שֶהַמֹּחַ רוֹאֶה, מְצַלֵּם וקוֹלֵט הַכֹּל!!!!
כָּל פְּרָט, אֲפִלּוּ הַקָּטָן וְהַמִּזְעָרִי בְּיוֹתֵר שֶׁבְּמַבָּט הַרִאשׁוֹן לֹא מַבְחִינִים בּוֹ אוֹ מִתְעַלְּמִים מִמֶּנוּ, בְּכָל זֹאת בְּמֹחַ הוּא מְצֻלָּם וּמְתוֹעַד וְלֹא יִשָּׁכַח לְעוֹלָם,
וּבְנוֹסָף לְכָךְ מַשְׁפִּיעַ עַל הָאִישִׁיּוּת שֶׁל הָאָדָם וְלַכֵן כְּכֹל שֶׁרוֹאִים מַרְאוֹת אָלִימִים הוֹפְכִים לִהְיוֹת אַלִּימִים יּוֹתֵר וּכְכָל שֶׁרוֹאִים מַרְאוֹת שֶׁל פְּרִיצוּת הוֹפְכִים לִהְיוֹת פְּרוּצִים וְחֻצְפָּנִים יוֹתֵר כֵּיוָן שֶׁהַתְּמוּנוֹת וְהַמַּרְאוֹת חוֹדְרוֹת לַתַּת מוֹדַע שֶׁבַּמֹּחַ וּמַשְׁפִּיעוֹת עַל הַהִתְנַהֲגוּת.

Chronicles of an OU mashgiach said...

'Lakewood svitzers' must be someone with a lisp referring to Swiss yeshivaleit in Lakewood.

Anonymous said...

harav shain why do you only print the comments which are good for you
when somebody criticizes you don't print it
be a gavra what do you have to hide

Anonymous said...

Horav Yudel. You also just joined the prestigous club of 'advertising' so so crises. You keep on harping and blaming everyone and anyone for pushing this cruise. By now there are quite a few people who are signing up for this cruise just to see what 'yudel is talking about'.
Others never knew about this cruise or its exsistence and now have chosen to make use of 'a new venture'.
So either take on the 'hashgacha' yourself (l'see'tos'cha)or bud out of such 'narisheh' issues (there are 100's of questionable hashgachas that you never said a word about).

Anonymous said...

People with a smart phone with Internet access can use an app to pinpoint their location using the building GPS function.
Knowing the time of Shabbos - to the minute is not a problem.

Anonymous said...

יצאה בת קול משמים וזעקה הבוקר אוי לבנים שובבים............

עם ישראל נא התעוררו, כולם צריכים להתחזק אנחנו החרדים צריכים לתת דוגמא לאחינו הטועים, לצערינו אנחנו מנסים להדמות להם והשם יתברך חייב לעורר אותנו. גם כן שאני הולכת ורואה את כל הפאות המסולסלות ואת הבגדים הצמודים והפרוצים ביותר, כל חלקי הגוף בולטים!! אז מה אם הגוף מכוסה.. אבל איפה הצניעות! איפה רבונו של עולם? זה מזעזע איך השם יתברך יכול לראות את זה ועוד מי דורש את זה?

נשים תמימות טוענות “אני עושה את זה בשביל בעלי”!!! ועל זה ד’ כועס, זה הבושה שהבעל לא שומר את העינים שלו ומסתכל ברחוב, ורוצה שאשתו תהיה יפה ומושכת בושה!!! אלף פעם!!! אני פשוט מזועזעת שהשם ישמור את כל עם ישראל וכולם יזכו לעשות תשובה שלמה באהבה ובשמחה.

הצדיקים הקדושים אמרו זה שנה אחרונה לפני ביאת משיח היא תהיה מאוד קשה וכדי לכולם לקפוץ על הרכבת של הגאולה עכשיו לפני שיהיה מדי מאוחר! אני אוהבת את עם ישראל אהבת נפש ומתפללת בכל יום על כולם ועלי שנזכה לעבור את העולם הזה בשלום בשורות טובות וגאולה ברחמים אמן! “אנחנו” צריכים לעשות משהו, זה ברור שזה מכוון אלינו מהשמים ודורש מאיתנו לתקן את מעשינו ובפרט לתקן הצניעות של משפחות “החרדים”, אם לא הבנתם אז אנחנו במלחמה גדולה! שומו שמים. השם תרחם עלינו מהר ומיד! אלוקים ישמור אותנו, והשם ינקום דמם, ה-ת-ע-ו-ר-ר-ו…

כמה עצוב תנחומי למשפחות. “זה בדיוק כמו הטבח שאנחנו רגילים לראות באירופה”, מספר עד ראייה הנשים הםרוצות החרידים גרמו שארבעה גופות של יהודים חרדים, שהיו באמצע תפילת “שחרית”, עטופים בטלית ותפילין, היו שרועים על רצפת בית הכנסת, מתבוססים בדמם, לאחר שנטבחו בידי שני מחבלים שפלים.

Anonymous said...

We cruise often we pack one full box of home cooked meals labeled glatt kosher. We take pre packaged deli rolls salads everything we could possibly need. The master chef takes everything as is puts it in ha freezer all double wrapped and sealed and serves us our meals with plastic utentials and paper plates
Never has a problem

Anonymous said...

The OU Poskim told me that they would never allow certifying any cruise ship due to all the immodest behavior that goes on the the ships. For example the casinos and night clubs. Therefore don't waist your time with the OU, find some other hechsher to do all the dirty work. As mentioned, the Star-k is more than happy to get into the kosher cruise bussiness.

Faygela said...

Fort not as bad as Star K running $$$$$$$$ after all the venues dropped by the OU for gay "marriages"

Anonymous said...

The answer is that NO reliable National or Local (South Florida) Kashrus agency will give hashgacha to a cruise, because it is IMPOSSIBLE to do it right. Some have tried, and they will NEVER do it again.

Anonymous said...

Oh, is the Kosherica owner a former canter at a conservative shrine?

Anonymous said...

Yudel would be the best hechsher for any cruise ship.

However, Yudel only posts, blogs and criticizes all.

He should get out of his comfortable home and go down to Miami and do the hashgacha in order to save the thousands of Yidden being "NICHSHAL" in Kashrus.

Thats what the Chofetz Chaim would do!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Thes cruise ships hold some 5000 people all eating straight treif food, mixed swimming, pritzus, etc.

The so called kosher (wannabes) are some 200 people. How one can expect yudel shain or any other serious kashrus focussed group to try and make a kosher program in this situation is very unrealistic and just fooling themselves and fooling all of the people booking the kosher program.

Anonymous said...

The chofetz chaim will never consider turning the treif chazer into a fake kosher program.

Yitzy said...

Yudel why don't you publish the letter signed by Rav Vosner Rav Chaim Rav Silmam Rav Nissen Korelitz and many other Gedolim against the Tamar Epstien heter

Anonymous said...

Will tamar and adam be on the cruise?

Anonymous said...

The toilets are not electric.

Anonymous said...

Why doesn't Yudel go port to port to check it out?
Why is he giving the dirty work to others?

Open Chicken Pox said...

Update: since Yudel first wrote this post about these Open Schmorthodox rabbis, Marc Schneier was finally thrown out of the Rabbonus by the OU and the Rabbanut in Israel has been trying to throw out Shlomo Riskin. They have some more ammunition now after Riskin just spoke at the latest radical feminist JOFA conference. Where before he was already ordaining women as "rabbis" he is now pushing for "dayanot" & for both shteller types to include the mayseh Eretz Mitzrayim women.

Anonymous said...

Voos ken men teen - deh oilom vill fooren of krooziz.
Yoh Koosheh Nisht Koosheh men miz fooren of krooziz.

Anonymous said...

Please do not say "ALL" Rabbis from Lakewood.
It does not include You, Rabbi Shain.

Also, why are you pressuring the OU when you should be pressuring the Lakewood Hiachdis or You yourself, Rabbi Shain????

Why do you always push the dirty work unto others?
Are you Lazy?

Anonymous said...

Not Enough Moollah.

Anonymous said...

שמעתי שנשות הכותל מוחות על
שבעשרת בני המן שתלו על העץ
אין אפילו אשה אחת

Anonymous said...

You think the media has 'fake news'? Just keep on reading this blog. You ain't seen nothing yet!!

Anonymous said...

Acquaintance just retuned from 2 week cruise. Says all was great in every aspect.

Anonymous said...

לאן הגענו - מודדים 'גדולים' על פי מספר הרכבים שלו? באיך מביאים את הרב שטרנבוך לקרית יואל. לנסוע ברכב אחד ופשוט זה לא מתאים, צריך רכב מכובד, אז בואו נסכים שלכבודו של הרב שטרנבוך שליט"א צריך להזמין לו רכב מכובד אם כי מי שיסתכל על איזה רכב הוא נוסע בארץ, כל רכב באמריקה יותר מכובד, אבל נתעלם, השאלה היא, כמה רכבים צריך, האם לא מספיק רכב אחד ואולי אחד לפניו, אז בואו נתפשר אחד לפניו ואחד מאחוריו, זו בדיחה בסאטמאר, כאן מודדים אדמורי"ם ורבנים על פי מספר הרכבים, אז צפו וראו כמה רכבים ואילו מלווים את הרב שטרנבוך לקרית יואל הסאטמארית.

בשביל מה? ולמה הארונים גייסו 50 רכבים כאלו שהשיירה תהיה ענקית להוציא לזאלונים את העיניים. כאן נספר לכם למה, בגלל שככה מודדים היום 'גדולים' ו'אדמורי"ם', לצערינו הרב בדור השפל הזה אנו חיים. כינוס כזה עולה הון תועפות, האם זה מצדיק את ההוצאה ולפעמים רוב אנשים נשארים רק עם השאלות.

אין זה סוד כי לאחרונה הרב שטרנבוך מצדד עם הצד האחר בעדה החרדית מי שהם נגד הקנאים, נגד התורה, הוא נגד הטענה כי כל בית שמש קברים, אע"פ שיודע שזה באמת כך ויש שמה קברי ישראל, והוא לאחרונה גם נגד הטענה כי חיים אנו עם חידוש גזירת גיוס השמד והזימה, הוא מצדד בעמדת האדמו"ר האהרוני מסאטמאר, והרבה ואולי אפי' רוב חלקים בעדה החרדית מתנגדים לשיטתו, כמו הקנאים, נטורי קרתא, והזאלונים וכו', ולגיטימי הוא להתנגד לדעתו ושיטתו של הרב החופר קברים, ובשל כך מתירים למלאות את הרחובות בפשקווילים של שם רשעים ירקב, ולמלאות את הקירות בגרפיטי משה שטרנבוך ימח שמו, ועוד מילים כאלו, וקול דמי אחיך צועקים מן האדמה - מהקברים בבית שמש.

שימו לב אים שופ ברירה, ולכך הם כותבים על הרב שטרנבוך כמו שהם כותבים על בן גוריון ודומיו, הרחובות מלאים בפשקווילים של שם רשעים ירקב, מקללים אותו בקללת ימח שמו כותבים עליו כל דבר אסור, מישהו אף חיבר קונטרס שלם להוכיח כי הרב שטרנבוך ציוני, מצאו מה שכתב בשנת תשכ"ז לאחר ששחררו את הכותל המערבי ומוכיחים כי הוא ציוני ואף גרוע מהם, מכנים אותו חופר קברים ועוד כינויים כאלו.

הרב שטרנבוך יהיה בשבת במונסי ויתאכסן באכסניה היכן שהתאכסן הרב שטיינמן זצ"ל - היאומן? כאילוי אין שום מקום אחר... ולמעשה: אולי הפגיעה הקשה בהרב שטרנבוך, שהיא שפלה ונבזית ומכוערת, תלמד את מי שצריך, לכבד את דעת תורותינו הקדושה, ולא להקל על כל דבר בהלכה ובהשקפה, רק בשביל כצת כסף וכבוד וכדומה. החינוך החרדי בעולם כולו בסכנה גדולה בגלל כמה רבנים המקילים בכל דבר שבקדושה

Anonymous said...

לפי הסיפור של *גפני אם לא היתי יודע מי-זה מרן הגאון הצדיק ר' חיים היתי מצייר אותו בתור אחד עם גי'נס וחולצה טריקו' שמקדימה תמונה של ליאון ומאחורה ציור של עינת קאליש.... כן ממש כך.... ..... .... ... ... ... ... ...

*גפני אמר זה מלחמת חייו של ר' חיים שעינת תנצח.. שהפרוצה תנצח?

בירושלים :
יו״ר דגל התורה ח״כ משה *גפני מברך את ראש העיר הנבחר משה ליאון מביתו של שר התורה ומספר לו כי מרן הגר״ח קנייבסקי שתה לחיים לרגל השמחה.

*גפני תפסיק לצייר לנו את מרן שר התורה המלאך הענק הזה איש אלוהים בתור
-אחד שיושב ומחכה לנצחון בפולטיקה.
*גפני אתה זה שמבזה את כל גדולי ישראל.
*גפני בגללך הילדים שלנו יחשבו שרבנים זה נטו פולטיקה ולא תורה.
*גפני תגיד לנו כבר מתי ר' חיים מסיים סדר מועד מס' קינים וכדו' כי אנחנו יודעים
-שרק זה ורק זה [תורה הק'] מעניין אותו מרן, שר התורה, אפי' שאתה רוצה אחרת.

וזה לא אישי רק נגד *גפני זה נגד כל החולרות המסיונרים כמו יענקושי וכו' שמסתובבים שם יענקל וחבריו שהורסים את האמונת הצדיקים, בושה וחרפה לכאלו עסקנים, והחכי"ם המשומדים, המבזים תלמידי חכמים וגדולי ומנהיגי הדור