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THE מים שלנו PARADOX
There are 2 opinions in Klal Yisroel for הלכות which are based on the שקיעה. There are those who follow the first שקיעה (sunset). Everything before sunset is called יום (day) everything after the sun starts setting is called בין השמשות . After a certain number of minutes (the different opinions for this are out of scope) it becomes לילה. For those who follow the second שקיעה this takes place 57.5 minutes after the first שקיעה . everything before then has a דין of יום. From 57.5 minutes till 72 minutes is בין השמשות . After 72 minutes it is לילה.
It is very easy for one to adhere to both opinions; for מצות which need to done in the timeframe of יום just make sure they are completed before the שקיעה ראשונה , for מצות which need to be done in the timeframe of לילה just make sure to start them 72 minutes after sunset. For the הלכות of מים שלנו there is no way that one can adhere to both opinions therefore the following issues arise. The רמ''א says that the water should be drawn סמוך לבין השמשות . For those who adhere to the first שקיעה this means very close to sunset. For those who adhere to the second שקיעה this means about 50 minutes after sunset.
If you follow the first שקיעה and you are baking in a bakery which belongs to a Kehila or has a client base which follows the second שקיעה you have to make arrangements for the מים שלנו for your מצות to be drawn before sunset. In a situation such as this the bakery should ask you to purchase all the מצות baked on your time, since their customer base considers the מים שלנו drawn before sunset נשאבו מבעוד יום and not סמוך לבין השמשות by virtue of a time span of almost an hour between when the water is drawn before sunset and the second שקיעה at 57.5 minutes after sunset followed by בין השמשות, this cannot be categorized as סמוך לבין השמשות .
The issue we have is, this is not happening. The bakeries are telling you the water was drawn before sunset and they are selling the overage from your baking to their customer base. This is a major רעותא in the נאמנות of the bakery stating that the water was drawn before sunset since this is not the type of water their customers are expecting. The only way that the bakery can be trusted in this scenario is if the RAV HAMACHSHIR issues a letter that he permits the use of water drawn before sunset to be used for all מצות baked in the bakery. If you cannot get such a letter you can assume that the water was drawn 50 plus minutes after sunset. This would categorize the water as מים שנשאבו אחר תחילת הלילה .
Even though after the fact the מ''ב permits this type of water in סימן תנ''ה ס''ק ד' he does write as follows וז''ל וכל שכן שלא לאחר לשאוב אחר כניסת הלילה . The issue now is if you will be baking in this type of bakery and you cannot get a letter from the RAV HAMACHSHER should you switch in order to follow the words of the Mishnah Brurah וכל שכן שלא לאחר לשאוב אחר כניסת הלילה . Also is it worth paying several dollars a pound extra for these מצות. If you have already baked under the above scenario should you return these מצות and look for other מצות.