Tuesday, April 25, 2017

Update: The Atrium hall in Monsey

Others have been uncomfortable lately with the Atrium..

They allow many caterers with questionable kashrus standards, or with no hashgocha at the affair per se.

Other Hashgochas may be requiring koshering, prior to use.



10 comments:

Moish Finkel said...

You see, I'm not the only one who shmutzed up the Atrium.

Yudel catches on quick.

Chometz Fresser said...

https://www.shoprite.com/glass-gardens-inc/

Shoprites in heavily frum areas like Brooklyn, Englewood & Paramus belong to the Glass Gardens Inc franchise.

https://relationshipscience.com/terry-glass-p159153704

Glass Gardens is owned by the Yiddishe Glass family.

Why are local rabbonim not being mefarsem this? I visited the Paramus store & saw throngs of frum people, both modern orthodox & yeshivish, buying chometz that cannot yet be considered from new stock.

Paramus said...

Just like Rabbi Chomsky certifies the kosher deli in Shoprite of Lakewood & many other locations, the OU certifies inside the Paramus Shoprite. Efforts to get the Glass clan to sell their chometz reportedly did not get much traction. So what does the OU do when coating chicken cutlets with flour, which the flour must be sourced from the store shelves as the deli is Shoprite-owned? They say they are waiting 2 weeks with the assumption that all the chometz she'ovar flour present in the store over Pesach has been sold by that point. The 2 week rule may have been valid 40 years ago but in 2017 with so many consumers buying ready made bread & cakes, I am not so sure that bags of flour turn over in only 2 weeks. It's also not clear what the OU is doing in the first 2 weeks being that they already were using flour within a couple of days after Pesach.

basmelech said...

I sell my own chometz with a reliable Rov. I think that is preferable to buying from a store that sold its chometz.

Talk, talk and more talk said...

These Shop rites sell their chametz not only their own chametz but also the chametz of all their suppliers, as they have done in the recent past few years. As strange as it may sound to you it is nevertheless a fact.

Mechiras Tes Zayin? said...

There is no sign about selling the chometz as have appeared in other supermarkets. And a frum Yid working in one of the Shoprites, not sure if he is employed by Shoprite or the hashgocho, told me the chometz was zicher not sold last year & he cannot get a straight answer what happened this year, so they are careful about what chometz they take from the shelf to use with the kosher take out.

Anonymous said...

Rabbi Belsky had a side business of selling chometz of supermarkets & their master distributors. I don't know if anyone took over from him.

In case anyone was wondering about Acme supermarkets that bought the bankrupt A&P stores as it is owned by Feinberg's hedge fund, they did arrange to sell the chometz. It could be that even Feinberg himself was concerned to not own chometz but al kol ponim one of his shutfim is a YU guy.

YU - Torah Madua said...

Which rov did Acme use to sell chometz? The YU guy was kicked off YU's Board & came very close to being arrested by State Attorney agents for being a Madoff front. My best guess why he is not in jail is maybe the government decided he will hide the money & not pay up if they jail him. He had to pay NY State $410 million & another half billion dollars to the Federal Bankruptcy Trustee.

Maria said...

Before pesach I saw a sign in shoprite of Paramus that all chometz is sold for them by Rabbi Beck in Flatbush. I think he is a respected chassidishe rov. He us Rav hamachsir of fish department at Glass's shoprite on Macdonald avenue in Brooklyn.

Teaneck said...

That is so weird. So then why would a frum employee be telling people there is a chometz problem in the Glass stores? And I heard it from him too. I looked after Pesach by the way & did not see any sign.