Monday, May 15, 2017

Is price a strong "enough" criteria one uses for their standard in kashrus?

Hefsed Mirubah, is a consideration in halacha.
Yet Reb Moshe Feinstein, Z"L sent a message to Reb Shnuer Kotler, Z"L not to use a certain brand of poultry even if it's a hefsed mirubah. He stated "bochurim und yungerleit darffen vissen az dus iz nisht far zei tzu essen.

Was it kusher bi'dieved?, most probably.

Lately the oilum hatorah started using the Agri, Rubashkin, Empire brands,among some others, as they say "The price is right", uber men ken nisht boi'en a torah'dik mishpacha azoi.
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13 comments:

Yudel! your getting older!! said...

The Shulchan Aruch Included 'Hefsed Merubah' for 'balle batim' only.

What else in Arbah Chelkay shulchan Aruch did "REB MOISHE" send a messenger to ....bla bla bla .... is only for Balle Batim???

How about some koolas for bnai yeshivah to instill into their families that do not apply to balle batim????

Anonymous said...

I know for a fact that reb chaim stien ztl from telz cleveland went down to the empire plant in mifflintown pa in the late 70s and came back with a clean psak that empire chicken is kosher lechatchilla . He even ate empire in his own home.

Anonymous said...

KNOW YOUR FACTS: THE EMPIRE IN THE 70'S AND THE EMPIRE OF TODAY ARE VERY FAR REMOVED. IN THE EMPIRE OF HE 70'S LAKEWOOD YESHIVA, LAKEWOOD KOLLEL FAMILIES ATE EMPIRE. REB MOISHE IN HIS SUMMER CAMP, AND IN STATEN ISLAND ATE EMPIRE.THE HASGOCHA THERE WAS MORE MEHUDAR AND STRINGENT THAN YOUR TOP OF THE LINE TODAY.[I speak as an insider who knew what went on then, and knows what is going on today]
THE HASHGACHA TODAY IS ONLY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO RELY ON THE OU WITH ALL THEIR SHORTCOMINGS.
REB CHAIM STEIN ztl SAW THE EMPIRE OF THE 70'S.

Monsey Toishov Maysehs said...

Why are we paskening from 'mayseh'lach'?
Yudel Mayseh.
Anonymous Mayseh.
Bubbeh Mayseh.
Mordie Mayseh.
Zaidah's Maysehs.

This Whole blog is Maysehs.
Hopefully Kosher Maysehs and not Loshon Horah maysehs.
By now, nothing on this blog is Toeles Maysehs

Anonymous said...

Empire today is run 100% by the NIRBARTOR all empire and meal Mart chicken are interchangeable

Anonymous said...

Your wrong. Empire today is way way better both in technology snd kashrus. Your totally clueless

Anonymous said...

What do you find problematic with Agri today?

What do you find problematic with Empire today?

Chronicles of an OU mashgiach said...

There are many comments here strenuously defending Empire.

The mashgiach is nebich working up a shvitz.

Must be that OU-certified Empire is taking up more cubic feet inside "West Side Kosher" trucks than the other OU brands.

Anonymous said...

Empire Shoichtim / mashgichim work under intimidation conditions.
Does that affect kashrus? You bet.

Anonymous said...

What's by Aaron & Agri?

The Rav hamachshir controls the visa status of the tzevet, that's not good for kashrus.

If any of the tzevet talks or share info with anyone, there is a "knaas" and gets fired among other.



Anonymous said...

Don't fool yourselves, kcl staff's bakshish is not cheap.

Anonymous said...

Agri does NOT have a real Rav hamachsher, it's run by the bal haboss

Anonymous said...

Yudel - Call your friend the Nirbator and ask him if he has any issue with Empire. All the shechita is his. Alle, Empire.. all the same.