Our hearts are all broken for what you are going through - May Hashem help your family find solace - It is a terrible tragedy and may you see only simchos b'karov!This generation has challenges that are so hard to understand - your brother is a korbon of many failures that exist in our times-and you are to be commended for your honest post- may he be a meilitz yosher for his family and friends - and may those who for whatever reason have to experiment with new yetzer horahs, realize that they are playing with fire and don't have the knowledge to act responsibly. May Hashem watch over all of us and help each one of use to be safe and responsible, and find true happiness and satisfaction in the derech hakadosh.
If only we got him help, by getting him diagnosed as a Genetic Alcohal Abuse Disorder, we could have forced him into rehab.Okay maybe he wasn't perfectly legally eligable for a diagnosis - but still, it would be ethically justifiable to diagnose him anyway becuase it would be in his best interest. And besides, once we get a doctor's statement, the diagnosis would have became just as real as any other real disease, so, techinachly, it wouldn't be considered a lie. Because even עפ"י תורה the doctor's פסק דין goes into effect למפרע, revealing that the diagnosis existed all along, so was the reality, the מציאות. So it wouldn't be considered a lie.And even if it was a lie, sometimes it's okay to lie for a mitzva, bifrat pidyon shvuin, or hatzalas nifoshos, or if its for someone elses best interest.If only the family would have gotten this young man a diagnosis... even if it wasn't ingantzen der emes... Perhaps we could have saved him...
Why not pass this message on to the 'GEVIRIM", who think that with thier "OPEN BAR" they are helping all these single guys in the neighborhood. Why not have an "OPEN RUCHNIUS HOUR" for the singles that mingle in their houses. Arrange or a speaker for them, nothing heavy serve chulnt and kugel instead of beer and booze. They will be doing much more for them and their families, instead of creating broken hearts. Unfortunately it's the "GEVIRIM" that sets the styles.
Disgusting thing to say He didn't have a drinking issue I knew him; you didn't obviously.You are a demented devil.
Licensed therapist how can you comment without knowing the person? Are you that sick and lacking in sensitivity???????
Yudel, this post is wrong. Just remove it.
Licenced Therapist seems to have come right out of philly to "diagnose" someone she never met. Of course, she does say that "even if it wasn't ingantzen der emes". Well, it means "even if there is ingantzen nisht kein emes." Please go back to philly and figure out how to deal with mamzeresel on the way.
It is impossible to even imagine how much pain the family is in right now. All we can do is pray that Hashem bring them nechama, whatever possible before Mashiach's coming. I don't see how the friends were at fault. Thank G-d, my husband doesn't have a drinking problem. But he does get drunk on Purim and if I saw him snoring on his back, it wouldn't occur to me to turn him on his side. I never heard of someone choking because of lying on their back when drunk. Is it even in medical journals? Even Hatzolah never put out such warnings before Purim. I don't know that anyone ever heard of such a thing. Even had Ari, a'h, been at home, I can't imagine his mother or siblings would have turned him on his side. Who would think of such a thing? I think this was clearly an act of G-d, not something that anyone could have thought to prevent. Yes, he might have had a drinking problem, he might have been an alcoholic, but even someone who's not an alcoholic who drinks once or twice a year this could have happened to, according to my understanding. This was Hashem's decision to take Ari at this time. Baruch Dayan emes. HaMakom yenachem eschem bsoch shear aveili Tzion bYerushalayim.May you have no more pain.
As somone who knew Ari ah very well your insensitive to stick your two unnecessary cents into this just shows what a awful person you are .why don't you first get diognosed as a clueless ignorant senseless animalistic cruel blogger and then will all figure out what to get diognosed for ..please for the future before you know any details go do some research and leave all alone
Actually, if you google "how to take care of a drunk person", every single search result will tell you to lay him on his side, not his front or back. It's not such an unknown, random thing. And you know what- if you're going to drink, take 2 minutes to look this information up, it can help you save people the rest of your life. I hold it's actually a bit irresponsible to take part in an activity that can lead to such dangerous results without ever learning anything about safety. Can you drive a car without first learning all about how to do it safely? Learning safety tips about drinking takes a tiny fraction of the time...And no. He had no drinking problem. It was a purely social activity, that went wrong. Obviously he was meant to have however many years he had, but it's sad this is the way it had to end, and it's sad his friends have to have this on their head. If other people can be spared the guilt, all the better.
Go to Yeshivah world and read this unbelievable (literally) story about "The Miracle With Hagaon HaRav Chaim Kanievsky And The Har HaBayis..."That is the one idiotic story that beats all of Yudel's Stories.
Why are you picking on the therapist? He probably gets his "information" from the same quack websites that the Kaminetzkys consult about vaccines.
I'd really love to get the bottom of the Kaminetzkys claiming they stand behind R' Chaim Kanievsky on vaccines and how the conversation went. As far as I know, it was R' Chaim's shver Rav Elyashev who told a Brisker nudnik that he has a chiyuv to the Klal to get vaccinated.We all know that grubba baal habatim have tricked gedolim into saying things with misinformation or just outright twist the gadol's words around.It is suspected that even some rabbonim did this manipulation in the cases of cop killer Grossman & the Rubashkin Schnorr-Fests.And certainly the Kaminetzkys have a history of "Gadol shopping" plus making up stories out of whole cloth.Where's YU when Philly needs them? "Kvar hoyrah zoken" on vaccines too? Or just for exciting stuff like adultery & mamzerus?
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