Monday, January 07, 2013

Updated: Which Heimish hashgocha has all of these "attributes"?

NOTE: There are many more "Attributes" לתועלת but מקצת שבחו בפניו וכו

1. Accepts insects as large as 1.2 mm in their checked vegetables. (so don't use any of their certified vegies)
2. Allows bakeries to use the same oven for parve and dairy without a supervised kashering.
3. Accepts oils, etc from the major global certifiers & utilizes their koshered tankers, only requires a mashgiach at the bottling of the oil. If the heimish mashgiach doesn't arrive, it's still acceptable.
4. Does a Heimish Pesach oil production & forgets to send the Mashgiach for the production. The producer utilizes non-pesach additives. They did accept the oil for the Heimish pesach productions.
5. Does not maintain a staffed office. Does not maintain production records. Does not have any traceability capabilities.
6. Their Mashgichim must wait 6 months to a year to get paid. They don't always get the correct amount, but it doesn't pay to fight after waiting so long.
7. Never answers to the consumer or to Rabonim that question their standard, system, etc.
8. Has a reputation of never removing a hashgoch for a kashrus issue (which they'll never realize), as long as the certification fees are current.
9. Use strong arm tactics to force producers to take their certification.
10. As a policy does not allow other Rabbonim or certifiers to inspect any of their facilities. (guess why)
11. Can't rely them for their Yoshon information.
12. Does not return calls to consumers or Rabbonim.
13. The popular Hashgocha based in Yerushulayim, shamefully uses this heimish hashgucah's unreliable Mashgichim.

                                                                    I GIVE UP!


14. A Shomer Shabbos bakery under them was actually working on Shabbos, There were witnesses, and a video, etc. yet they did not remove their hashgocha.
15. The Pesach salt (in the brown bags) was packed in a facility (no Mashgiach) that also packs all types of foods all year.
16. A pesach sugar production was done (in brown bags) in a facility that had previously used their equipment & storage for flour. No pesach cleaning was done.
17. They allow the use of confectioners glaze (from insects) and they have it removed from the list of ingredients.
18. They are allowing many establishments to operate without a mashgiach's presence, when the OU would would not allow it. So what is if the owners are frimeh yidden. Ask Shevach butcher in Monsey among many others.
19. Broclli & cailiflower that's was checked & found to be infested, yet they are allowing it "the mashgiach checked the middle of he field vee took from the outside only" whom are they fooling?
20. The Pesach Starch was not with the aidas hashgocha, it was with Chugs hashgocha & chug did not have a mashgiach there.
21. Spinach & other infested items were certified by them even though it was washed with recirculated "unfiltered" water, so the insects were redeposited on the spinach.
22. Etc.

35 comments:

  1. Let me guess ...

    zei zeinen dee BESTEH hashguche?

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  2. Which doesn't have all of them & others?

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  3. tell us who "the star K" ? who tell us who not

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  4. Yudel Gimel Middos sh'Itzu Glick nidrash buhemMon Jan 07, 07:19:00 PM 2013

    Vayaavor al haFood Industry vayikru ...

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  5. # 14. If you tell Hisachdus you caught one of their accounts with violations, they just take the information from you and don't tell you what the outcome was.

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  6. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbinicalcourts/crc/documents/nyt093082.jpg

    Who vants to know?

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  7. Why does the Aida use these gangsters? Maybe the Aida is also no good since they turned into a regular business since poppenheim took over.

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  8. Deh Rebbe ZYOVAKY"O start ouver hashgoochi. He still vatching out for ins. And ouver shgoochi vill be til mooshee'ich is coming.
    Ins menshin vill yuce onlee ouver shggochi and no von can't stop myne Rebbe.

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  9. The OK is in bed mit sach'dus.
    Who's Ittzu & who's binyomin aryeh?

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  10. At least 'sachdus doesn't blog, so they won't respond. Since de asifa we don't either blog.

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  11. Hisachdus finally had a falling out with one account. Not clear if it was because of the complaints why they certified there or because the account didn't pay.

    Why did Hisachdus ever certify Kossar's Bialys on the Lower East Side? Owner Juda Engelmayer is the son of a Conservative rabbi. He attends an orthodox shul because that's all there is on the Lower East Side. He wrote an op-ed in a newspaper that he is not a maamin but takes his kids to shul because it's traditional. He fights to have an eruv in the neighborhood because it's better for his real estate value and for bialy sales. He fights so hard for an eruv that he attacks R' Dovid Feinstein and the kavod of R' Moishe.

    Engelmayer was also the PR executive hired by Rubashkin who was caught impersonating Rubashkin critics on the internet to make them look stupid. One group of people he impersonated forced him to apologize with the threat they would press charges with the Manhattan DA being that what he did was a Federal offense.

    How did Hisachdus even find this loser?

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  12. "At least 'sachdus doesn't blog"

    They did once have a ridiculous website that in Yiddish something to the effect that if you can read & understand this you shouldn't be on the internet.

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  13. Weren't Sachdis also the shlemazals responsible for the citric acid scandal one Pesach?

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  14. Satmar usually releases their spin through Hertz Frankel (a Galitzianer who doesn't fit in with Romanian gypsies) so why the silence on inyanei kashrus?

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  15. http://thepartialview.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-true-askan-knows-when-to-give-it-up.html

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  16. Didn't 'sachdus use the pesach starch from chug not the aida?

    'sachdus uses confectioners glaze, but the remove it from the list of ingredients, so you wouldn't know-a bunch of gangsters.

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  17. Did the kasrus administrator take any loans from the establishments they certify? You are hoping he'll pay you also?

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  18. 'sachdus packed zeir zaltz kusher lipesach in browneh begs. zei hubben nisht kein mashgiach durt. ess iz gepaket in a fabrik vus packed chometz oich-'sachdus farbrechers.

    shitzt nisht dee farbrechers, zei zennen a pusheten mafioneren mit plachiks.

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  19. caught impersonating Rubashkin critics on the internet to make them look stupid ...

    Upgelernt fun Rabbeinu vesiyato impersonating Spotlight on the Queens Vaad with silly comments

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  20. "Engelmayer is the son of a Conservative rabbi. He attends an orthodox shul because that's all there is ...."

    Didn't know that he's from KG's Shul on Metro Ave!

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  21. Did sachdis help cover up the mezonos maven scandal?

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  22. Chronicles of an OU mashgiachTue Jan 08, 02:28:00 PM 2013

    Didn't know that he's from KG's ...!

    Didn't know that West Side Kosher distributes Kossar's bialys too!

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  23. Is it Gissinger ?

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  24. Sachdis was involved with mezones maiven when they were cought working on shabbos. 'sachdis didn't take off the hashgocha. gelt iz fort gelt.

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  25. Didn't 'sachdus give a pesach hashgocha on sugar that was packed in a company in yonkers that stored chometz in those silos without cleaning them before putting in the sugar?

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  26. Those that don't rely on heimish may use flaums appetizing for pesach as the OU has a mashgiach for their pesach productions

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  27. Didn't 'sachdus give a pesach hashgocha on sugar

    Was that Jack Frost brand that you have the privilege of paying extra for the Sachdis shticker added on or was that another one in the braunne zeklach?

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  28. http://thepartialview.blogspot.com/2013/01/frum-blogs-and-websites-can-get-sued.html

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  29. A za frrrrrost

    I think that's what R' Shmuel Kaminetzky says when it's very cold outside

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  30. A bandeh roibers or thugs as you would call it.
    de orginzatzias is a prublem? dee shvindlers vuss ent zenen.

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  31. Yudel and all you KG guys and all you bliggers can stand on your head.
    We at de hisachdis, have the whole willi, BP, KJ. Leckvood, Monsey (both sides) and afile Flatbish in ouer hends. They all use our hashgooche and we don't kare vat you bliggers say.

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  32. CENTRAL RABBINICAL CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA INC

    Physical Address:85 Division Ave
    Brooklyn, NY 11211 EIN:11-2697865

    Organization does not have a GuideStar Exchange Seal

    Registered with IRS Legitimacy information is available

    Financial Data Organization has not reported Revenue & Expense data to GuideStar & IRS

    Mission Objectives Mission Statement is not available

    Impact Statement from the nonprofit is not available

    They are making millions & somehow it's not reported. CRC is not exempt from filing a 990, they aren't a synagogue.

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  33. Guidestar has a very slow process to upload all the IRS returns. Some hashgochos are already uploaded and others noch nisht. Even the uploaded ones might be behind by a couple of years.

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  34. At least Hisachdus reportedly threw out two shochtim or bodkim many years ago when it was learned they went to a movie.

    On the other hand you have a rabbi who is Queens Vaad Vice-President, a moderneh ortodoxer who promotes how he goes to the Harry Potter movies that are full of kishuf & avoyda zara and pushes that everyone else should watch these movies as well. He even teaches a course about the "lomdishe" shtussim he derives from Harry Potter at the modern orthodox Salanter Akiba school.

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  35. He even teaches...

    At least he has a job.

    Did your Welfare check already run out? How about Food Stamps? HUD? HEEP?

    Does the food from 'City Harvest' taste good?
    Never mind Kosher - the 'mishpooche' is hungery.

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