Rabbi Yaakov Reisman, Shlita says that he recommends everyone to follow the KAJ recommendation list for poultry sources.There has been some significant kashrus down-grades at the Empire Alle/Meal-mart poultry process. They added Tartikuv's R' Yechiel Babad. They have again gone down kashrus wise.
The Empire, Alle and Meal-mart, Kosher Valley, Star-K are all the same product with different labels. Usually the Empire brand commands a higher price.
When the OU realized that they were the "Shabbos goy" at Kiryas Joel (KJ) so they left.
ReplyDeleteKJ, then had to take the Star-K- very understandable.
How does KAJ give a hashgocha with Star-K at Empire?, we thought KAJ is more erlich than that.
Now with a Reb Yechiel Babad hashgocha (Star-K in Sh'monah bigadim), it's time for KAJ to run.
ReplyDeleteDo not go to anyplace that has the Star-K, as you'll regret it.
Does that mean the Nirabator Rov is not in charge anymore?
DeleteLearn how to withstand animosity,
ReplyDeleteAnd to weather unpopularity,
and carry on the struggle, to uphold "Hashem's ideals". R' Shimon Schwab, Ob"m
KAJ, time to walk from Empire?
The Facts are VERY simple:
ReplyDeleteWhen Star-K goes somewhere to shecht they have their own standards, they even bring their own shochtim - not sure (According to Yudel no standards) But did you ever notice that Star-K stuff done at KJ, for example, does NOT have the local heimish Hashgacha ???
Probably the same for other places they go to.
Thus there is no need for the old proven and sound hashgachas to move else where NOR does that indicate that the standards of these sound hashgachas went down.
It may be independently true but this is not any proof.
Does Jacobowitz defer to Star K at Alle?
ReplyDeleteYudel Shain can’t spell because he’s an illiterate retard.
ReplyDeleteStar-K standards?
ReplyDeleteYes the Star-K's shechita at Falls poultry was verified by the world's expert (per the Star-K's Rabbinic Administrator's statement to Rav Kulefsky) on shechita.
Expert's Conclusion- "at least 20% of chickens certified by Star-k are to be considered as "Nev'eilah" R"L.
Then the Star-K "falsified" a copy of the report written by Rabbi Avrohom Rubin of Eretz Yisroel.
ReplyDeleteThe Star-K also falsified 2 pages of Reb Shlomo Zalman's sefer "Halichos shlomo", where he wrote that the Star-K's heteirim in bishul akum, etc. are the main causes of "intermarriage" in the world.
At the Star-K's ZALMANS Shechita in Windham, Minnesota, the Star-K allowed the goyim to have complete access to the seals, hashgocha tape, simonim, etc. Besides many other serious kashrus issues at the shechita. Verifiable by the Debretziner Rav.
ReplyDeleteRav Moshe Shterbuch put out a letter that we should publicize not to rely on Star-K's hashgocha.
ReplyDeleteI guess there enough people that are heavily mi'tum'tum using Star-K products R"L.
Lately, The Major International USA based kashrus certifiers stated between themselves that
ReplyDelete"the biggest kashrus problem in the world today is"? the Star-K (It's all one big farce).
You don't expect them to tell you the above, because kashrus certifier's are very nizhar in
נטילת ידיים , where one hand washes the other hand. R"L
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/03/a-fake-pandemic-antivaxxers-are-spreading-coronavirus-conspiracy-theories/
ReplyDelete“A Fake Pandemic”: Antivaxxers Are Spreading Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories
https://matzav.com/michael-schick-catering-is-now-delivering-pesach-meals-to-you/
ReplyDeletewho cares what shechita? a bee meh fresst
If you want to know where all the fressing goes or where the fressing will be just e-mail the "abc...xyz Fresser".
ReplyDeleteSometimes its Agudah Fresser. Sometimes its Chasidish Fresser. Sometimes 5T Fresser.
Hazaad Hahshaveh..Its always about a good fress. for somereason our abc..xyz fresser knows them all (Even in the consevativeh circles - wow. Now that's the ultimate fresser).
So would thing the Fresser would share hie resources (usually free) but no. If someone is trying to help people who can't cook for yom tov (Not that can't afford it - they just physically can't) and usually go to a hotel - that infringes on the abc...xyz Fresser.
Is Greenwalds catering O.k. hashgoca wise?
ReplyDeleteבס"ד
ReplyDeleteעָלָה מָוֶת בְּחַלּוֹנֵינוּ:
בואו ונבדוק ביחד המצב המר של היום:
המגיפה החריפה שפוקדת את הקהילה החרדית בעולם כולו ובפרט בארצות הברית הביאה אתמול ושלשום למותם של עשרות חרדים נוספים זי"ע - חלקם ממש צעירים בשנות הארבעים והחמישים לחייהם, כשהם מותירים אלמנות ויתומים רכים בביתם ה"י•
בואו חשבון:
* הקב"ה זרק אותנו מבתי הכנסת ובתחילה היה מותר להתפלל בחוץ.
* עכשיו הקב"ה גם את התפילות הללו הקב"ה דוחה ויש לנו להתפלל יחידי.
* הקב"ה זרק אותנו החוצה מהישיבות, וחדרים של תינוקות של בית רבן.
* גם הלימוד תורה שלנו לא כל כך מתקבלים בשמים.
* הגאווה והיהירות שלנו בחברה החרדית הביאה אותנו לאסון גדול ונורא
שאחד מכל שלשה חרדים חולים בקורונה רח"ל ה"י ויצילינו מכל צרה וצוקה ומחלה.
רואים מכאן ש.....
- ד' לא שומר על מי שלא שומר על עצמו ברוחניות.
- ד' לא מעוניין בלימוד התורה שלנו כפי שהיה עד עכשיו.
- ד' לא מעוניין בתפילות שלנו כפי שהיו.... ואנחנו חייבים לשנות דרך התפלות.
- ד' מדבר איתנו דברי קשות ואנחנו מסרבים לשמוע רח"ל.
הנביא אומר שהקב"ה אמר ~ "שָׂנֵאתִי מָאַסְתִּי חַגֵּיכֶם וְלֹא אָרִיחַ בְּעַצְּרֹתֵיכֶם: (עמוס פרק ה פסוק כא) כִּי אִם תַּעֲלוּ לִי עֹלוֹת וּמִנְחֹתֵיכֶם לֹא אֶרְצֶה וְשֶׁלֶם מְרִיאֵיכֶם לֹא אַבִּיט. הָסֵר מֵעָלַי הֲמוֹן שִׁרֶיךָ וְזִמְרַת נְבָלֶיךָ לֹא אֶשְׁמָע." ח"ו.
*אנא עם ישראל היקרים הגיע הזמן להתעורר לחיות כיהודים של פעם.
*נא ונא תתעוררו עכשיו עם כל הלב. המשיח כבר מגיע עכשיו....
*ואני תפילה שד' ירחם עלינו בקרוב ממש, כי כעת עם ישראל עוד לא מבין רמזים, אז אני מבקש שהשם ית' ירחם עלינו וישלח משיח צדקינו לגאלינו, ושנזכה ליַגִּיעֵנוּ לְמוֹעֲדִים וְלִרְגָלִים אֲחֵרִים הַבָּאִים לִקְרָאתֵנוּ לְשָׁלוֹם, שְׂמֵחִים בְּבִנְיַן עִירֶךָ וְשָׂשִׂים בַּעֲבוֹדָתֶךָ, וְנֹאכַל [השנה] מִן הַזְּבָחִים וּמִן הַפְּסָחִים במהרה בימינו, אמן
So.. here's the deal...
ReplyDeleteThe Star-K doesn't give hashgocha at Empire. The Nirbater oversees all shechita there, so unless someone has trouble with him....
When KJ tried having the OU to be their Shabbos-Goy and use the OU label for all of the not so kosher product, the OU walked out on them.
ReplyDeleteWho walked in? STAR-K.
Star-K is still in Empire, with Yechiel Babad ofTartikuv.
So the OU relies on Neirbateh, Neirbateh relies on tartikov, Tartikov relies on Kof-K, Kof-K relies on Star-K< Star-K relies on Babad, Babad relies on the OU.
ReplyDeleteBut Pella - the highest recommended poultry by even Hagoon Reb Yudel, who relies on No one is the most expensive even though at empire at least 8 shgooches are sharing the pie.
The fact that they claim to shecht slower just means more gov't programs for someone.
Experienced shochtim can shecht faster then not so experienced shochtim !!!
Anyway if on your garbage there is Pella chichen wrappers then you can marry into other "Pella wrapper in trash" mishpoches. Nu. Nu.
Don't forget if you use Empire products even with other labels on them then you have a Bracha from Reb Yudel that your family or someone in the family will INTERMARRY. (A working ugy or modern mishpocheh or a too froom family also passes for intermarriage.)
In any case, lets welcome back Reb Yudel who on the end of the keeps all on their toes.
We were worried about you you. B"H it nice to have you back.
https://hamodia.com/2020/04/23/new-york-city-kosher-meal-rollout-disastrous-say-officials/
ReplyDeletehttps://collive.com/keeping-a-strong-immune-system/
ReplyDeleteR shimshon pinkus zl used to only eat chickens he himself shechted and would not eat in anyone's house. I thought he was too fanatic. Not now.
ReplyDeleteWhich means he did not trust anyone.
ReplyDeleteOn Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 1:04 PM Yehuda Shain wrote:
ReplyDeleteThe way I see kashrus going in a few areas are as follows;
1- Empire took in Babad hashgocha which is a star-k in שמונה בגדים KAJ will never get along with him as he is a קל to put it mildly. So KAJ will be on the way out.
The Empire, Alle and Meal-mart, Kosher Valley, KAJ, Star-K are all the same product with different labels.
ReplyDeleteDifferent Labels - True. But also different standards - which was conveniently omitted.
Star-K also slauders at KJ - SAME PRODUCT but definitely different standards.
As usual, on this site all must be taken with a (Big) grain of cyanite.
Will take that with2 grains of...
DeleteI visit there, the only standard that is different are the packaging and the plumbas.
ReplyDeleteSo if you don't know what you are talking about, please don't do it here.
Where's Spiegel?
ReplyDeleteI believe its truly a business decision from empire to obtain a chasidish hashgacha.
ReplyDeletethe fact is that there are not even 100 people that will buy a product because it has kaj!
unfortunately, the yekkes community is shrinking.
"not even 100 people"
ReplyDeleteNot even close to being true.
MANY people from heimishe backgrounds say they trust the Yekkes with kashrus before they 'trrrust' the Chassidishe.
Empire's polling probably only asked actual Chassidim who ignorantly think they can trrrust the shvachste Chassidisha shgoocha over any non-Chassidisha
Jacobovitz getting the last laugh?
ReplyDeletehttps://crownheights.info/jewish-news/710769/bingos-new-monsey-location-closed-by-village-over-social-distancing-violations/
ReplyDeleteThe chutzpa of the establishment is incredible. KAJ spelled it out in their public letter that there are kashrus issues behind their departure - something they didn't have the guts to admit by Rubashkin - so this is a huge admission on KAJ's part. But an establishment rabbi is pretending as if the KAJ letter doesn't exist while telling everyone there are no kashrus issues, it's just that KAJ decided that "three is a crowd"! I would venture that he is not only a liar but also guilty of motzee shem ra because it makes KAJ look petty to whoever is naive enough to believe him.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1885365/in-depth-analysis-why-did-kaj-pull-their-hechsher-from-empire-kosher-chickens.html
ReplyDeleteNow, empire states that it was a business decision to removed kaj over a chassidish hashgacha.
Don't fool yourself there's a very very limited clientele that knows, buys, or honors KAJ!
They might be nice people but a minority within a minority!
Rabbi Babad started giving his hashgacha on empire in the wintertime already, just it took some time until all packaging was replaced to show his symbol on it. Now that all packaging reflects his hashgacha and the KAJ symbol was removed they acted up!
Rabbinic corruption is rampant. We see a kashrus scandal also with the RCC regarding Doheny meats and now this: https://youtu.be/0YXC1jZ2jhE
ReplyDelete'But an establishment rabbi'
ReplyDeleteWon't mention name - its Loshon Horeh. BUT......
'something they didn't have the guts to admit by Rubashkin'
All of a sudden he burns the Shmiras Haloshon....
But saved and tore out the motzee shem ra page.
Strange indeed.
Thu Jul 23, 1:23 PM is an establishment propagandist desperate to hide the REAL kashrus-based reason why KAJ pulled out!
ReplyDeleteI am so "sure" KAJ would just sprint away from that huge fee they were collecting because they weren't getting de facto shevach from a plastic shrink wrap.
It happens from time to time that national accounts will omit a hashgocho symbol which they feel may not be recognized in enough parts of the country.
There is a supermarket chain for instance that has a heimishe hashgocho that is little known outside NY. One day when they went under a national player as 2nd hashgocho they kept the heimishe but stopped printing his symbol on at least 95% of their in house product.
There are also food manufacturers that have a special hashgocho for yoshon that they do not mark any of their product with.
According to the propagandist Dayan Brody in Boro Park should be baleydikt & quit giving hashgocho on wheat fields used by some matzoh bakeries because he is not acknowledged on the boxes of finished product.
And Rabbi Hershel Brody in Monsey must be really "insulted", the propagandist will tell you, because when he certifies Yanay's dips of Monsey for Pesach only, they don't create a special label mentioning him to put on the containers.
For those of us living outside the propagandist's fantasy world, we are not holding our breath that anyone else is quitting.
Thu Jul 23, 2:30 PM, another establishment Ferd.
ReplyDeleteWhat are you talking about? You make no sense!
KAJ issued one letter publicly saying Rubashkin is dropped for business reasons. But in the Fedex overnight letter to Rubashkin's father, they told him the truth, that they had enough of his son's many repeated kashrus violations. A KAJ insider was upset the truth was being covered up. So to prevent any more michshol to consumers, he leaked the letter to the public realm. That was a mitzva what the insider did, not an issur.
I didn't name the Empire cover up rabbi because he's hiding so I can't. The coward is using one of the establishment mouthpieces, I don't remember now if it was Eckstein or Pinny Lipschutz, who are spreading his nonsense without naming him.
You gotto love the mitzvis this guy keeps looking for and ‘kelompish’ finding.
DeleteAh shrivel Tehillim would get you much further on both worlds ( if you believe in them).
A disgruntled get giver or potential get giver.
ReplyDeleteThis stuff happens every day.
Not be taken seriously.
Wait one minute! You mean to tell me there is an upgraded photography package being offered by Lakewood Matzos Bakery? I'll be the first one there to pose with Dayan Brody! A wheat field is a much more scenic background for my photo op! It'll give me something for my wall gallery that the other bessereh mentchen don't have!
ReplyDeleteOU employee Yair Hoffman comes charging in for one of his PR stunts. Give us a break. He was a useful OU tool at the Postville cover up which one newspaper compared to the "3 hour tour" of comedy show "Gilligan's Island" that ended in a disastrous shipwreck. Hoffman did such a good job repeating OU punch lines to protect Rubashkin in the 5 Towns that they had him go global on websites since then.
ReplyDeleteBut Hoffman wasn't born yesterday and although he knows being a stickler for the truth will cost him his mashgiach job at A&H, he still feels guilty enough to hide this very telling tidbit among all the Pravda style reporting that was dictated to him by Menachem Genack:
"One Kashrus expert was of the opinion that KAJ would not never leave a hechsher unless there was a true Kashrus problem. Given the size of the account, it is difficult to dismiss his thinking."
CooGardnehs is really “ah rein getaun in lehrnehn”.
DeleteHis lehrnrhn seems to consist of “Mesechteh” Gilligans Inzel and all of the other Fineh “Mesechtas” from dehr “ Shtoos Kestel” with which he was raised
An independent rav hamachshir tells me that short of researching the details his guess is there is a good chance that Babad might be trying to smother out KAJ with choice of shochtim, leaving KAJ as 4th fiddle with no say in the matter.
ReplyDeleteI will be mossif that it seems kind of suspicious that the OU is suddenly planting a story out there about how Babad's shochtim are big yirei Shomayim. I'm not saying it's impossible but I'm not sure if that is at the top of Babad's priorities. Babad was caught red handed years ago with a kashrus scandal which led to some hashgochos banning any product of his from their accounts. And Babad was behaving so badly with Brooklyn restaurants that KIC-KIS ganged up on him (and Gornish) forcing those clowns to come to a meeting where they laid the law down to them.
If you listen to the OU spinning their Dreidel narratives, there is always a cheery explanation behind everything.
Rubashkin is "state of the art" and "consolidating" under them & Weismandl
The BIG BEATLES in the salad and numerous other kashrus violations at Le Marais are a figment of the mashgiach's imagination as the shkotzim there (who had fights with other hashgochos previously) are such swell chevra
Etc.
Etc.
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1999-12-03-9912030162-story.html
But in real life, a Dreidel with Gimmel on all sides is fraudulent.
FYI... the nirabator has final say on the choice of shochtim.
DeleteOU is lagging all the way to the Bank AND to oilom HaKashris.
DeleteThe OU today is one of the best hashgacha especially in the Restaurant and food service business.
If your priorities are geklapleteh eier ( eggs cracked on the same day used) or no onions, garlic, (raw) eggs left cut or opened over night and all the other kashrus are secondary then you must go ‘across the bridge’ (ATB) to those hashgacha.
This big companies are just fine with the OU but in order to pickup the growing profits available out there from the ATB consumers they do what best for them and hire the most popular ATB hashgacha which once upon a time may have been KAJ but now has moved on to Tartikov. Don’t forget the Satmar/ Batteh crowd already uses Empire via Meal Mart.
But on the end of the day OU is king in the major food industry manufactures.
A shoichet says; Not so, the shoichtim must be approved by all the certifiers.
ReplyDeleteA shoichet also says; the only one that "knows" the art of "shechita" was KAJ.
If the Nirbater is in charge then why is Genack harping that Babad shochtim are on the madraigeh of the Chassidim Harishonim?
ReplyDeleteWhat could Genack be covering up if not on the shochtim? That propaganda is odd. He is hiding something
There is a certain yeshiva I'm not naming but to give you a hint, they have many similarities to Philly such as cult personality issues & despite their yeshivishe antics they are not known for getting their keren into Brisk.
ReplyDeleteThis yeshiva had a vilda bunch in the late 80s & early 90s who caused some problems when they got to Lakewood. The BMG roshei yeshiva & the Mashgiach ztl were displeased and had to call them in about exotic trips they were taking mitten zman (which earned them the nickname "the Hawaii chevra") plus another issue which arose after they got married.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfR7qxtgCgY
One shtikel they pulled was by a Shabbos seudah in the BMG dining room, they started Shir Hamaalos to the tune of the "shir shel yom" on Yudelstake linked above. There were a few smattered chuckles or gasps of hishtoimemus from bochurim who were bakant, but everyone else was nebich duped & sang along, including the rosh yeshiva whose turn it was, R' Yisroel Neuman.
Years later, the newspaper editor who ridiculed on the front page, the joint OU-Chabad-Agudah-Young Israel cover up at Agri, by comparing the 3 hour tour to Gilligan's Island was Meyer Fertig. The OU then sent their messenger boy, mashgiach & syndicated columnist Yair Hoffman, to write an attack against Fertig. Hoffman was scared to sign his name so he signed the attack as "Ben Nathanson". Hoffman made a huge booboo however when noting a special email for Nathanson. He didn't remember that he had publicly used the email in the past. Not only did he inadvertently identify himself but further investigation revealed that Hoffman-Nathanson is called up for aliyos as "Yair ben Nosson". Meyer Fertig told the oylam that he "dealt with Hoffman".
https://worldisraelnews.com/caroline-glick-china-iran-strategic-accord-changes-calculus-for-israel/
ReplyDeleteRav Gruber can now claim hero status for bailing out of China without telling anyone.
How many other heimishe shgooches & heimishe tchotchkes manufacturers will pull out now?
Hey suckers, I mean taxpayers, get ready to finance the next 'FREE LUNCH' for Shvartzas (+ heimishe whose Rebbes always endorse Welfare-State Democrats), in the form of gigantic mortgage & rent bailouts in the Blue States!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/07/24/as-coronavirus-relief-and-eviction-protections-expire-millions-at-risk-of-losing-homes/24570981/
The experience of two states which lifted eviction moratoriums two months ago provides a preview of the housing crisis that could affect millions of Americans as key provisions in the federal coronavirus assistance program are about to expire.
The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act, which kept many families afloat with supplemental unemployment insurance benefits and suspended evictions in federally supported housing, expires on July 25.
“Based on analysis of the U.S. Census Household Pulse Survey by Stout, the number of renters at risk of eviction has consistently increased for the past five weeks, and has exceeded 17 million households including over 40 million people,” said Emily Benfer, chair of the American Bar Association’s Task Force Committee on Eviction and a visiting professor at Wake Forest Law School.
“With the expiration of the CARES Act and no federal intervention in sight, Congress is putting Americans and the housing market in great jeopardy,” Benfer added. “What was an entirely preventable crisis has become a humanitarian disaster of the United States' own making. Americans will be left with the bill and paying for the societal costs of widespread eviction well into the future.”
I thought Rabbi Eisen is "the King"?
ReplyDeleteThat's very sad that from all the heimishe, the OU picks one of the shvachste, the Babad from 20th Ave.
Not like it's unexpected however considering Genack's premeditated history with heter manufacturer Belsky and the one to fill his shoes Rabbi Weiss.
And what passes by the OU for the biggest mumche in behaymos gassos is an Open Orthodox PhD in artsy fartsy English literature, Dr. Seth Mandel. Then the OU's top bird man Loike comes from a similar home, which Avromi Reit was duped by the OU appointment and doesn't chapp what kind of dangerous hashkofos the bird man brings to his halacha lemayseh camp for bnei Torah
CDC report on Empire
ReplyDeletehttps://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6995136-CDC-Memo-Empire-Kosher-Poultry-Plant-Mifflintown.html
Some employees not wearing masks.
MANY employees improperly wearing masks on chin instead of over the mouth
Empty hand sanitizer unit in restroom
Hand-written sign that read “OK to go back to work when sick.”
601 employees. 60 are rabbis who travel back & forth between the plant & their homes in more densely populated NY, NJ & MD — hit far harder than Mifflintown by the coronavirus.
Given the commuting rabbis, some of whom carpool, Empire has faced a unique challenge in keeping COVID-19 at bay over the last four months.
44 Empire employees tested positive by the time of the inspectors’ visit. Most had returned to work. Two required hospitalization, and one employee died.
6 of the confirmed COVID-19 cases were rabbis.
The rabbis live in dormitory housing at Empire from Sunday to Thursday, then travel home. Those who live in Baltimore, 115 miles south, carpool back & forth during the week.
Amesh Adalja, senior scholar at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security: "Empire should ask the rabbis to stay home. The heightened risk the virus can spread from them to other workers or spread among members of the communities where the rabbis live is not worth it", he said.
Empire statement:
Any speculation the rabbis were the source of transmissions is hurtful.
Rabbi Israel Weiss, executive vice president at Empire, said rabbinical workers held synagogue services outside, in a tent, while 6 feet apart.
“The rabbis,” Weiss said, “made a great sacrifice.”
6 feet apart does nothing. When they are stam breathing AND there is no wind, more than 11 feet is required to not be infected by virus particles. If someone coughs or sneezes without a mask it's more than 26 feet.
ReplyDeleteLike the Klausenberger Rebbe said, we should not be following government rules, we should be following what is actually safe.
Sun Jul 26, 11:03:00 AM 2020
ReplyDeleteWhat do you know about genuine bnei Torah? Or Torah in general?
So the reason not to eat empire is:
ReplyDeleteYou'll get COVID-19 if you eat, touch or purchase Empire products.
Which were positively brought in by the RABBIS from Brooklyn and elsewhere.
Not from the partying, bar hopping or other social mingling from the non-Rabbis and/or the non Brooklyn people.
The fact that Empire closed for two weeks during one of the busiest time of the year when some workers suspected their had the virus is conveniently omitted.
Another Jew lover posting beautiful information about Jews.
I hear clapping. Shoin hot men einer dort at Sun Jul 26, 3:24 PM!
ReplyDeleteNot unexpected that pointing to a CDC report draws an establishment stooge out of his hole to attack people as self-hating Jews.
3:24 is of course Dishonest in addition to Krum.
When that report was compiled there were no bars open tze gein shpringen.
The lying stooge even said Empire closed due to cheshash that there may have been infections - there were multiple employees who tested positive!
3:24 is inadvertently right about one thing, there was mingling by non-Brooklyn people because the Baltimore shochtim commute every day.
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Ner Yisroel & the Agudah set the tone in town. They follow Philly's path of destruction & were conducting secret, illegal indoor minyanim. That's why when they had the car ramming bilbul on Yeshiva Lane, the maniac driver had his pick of rebbeyim with tallis zekel in arm who were on their way to shacharis.
No way that meat plants can avoid infections unless they spend millions to properly space, which they won't. There were hospitalizations & death from Empire but it's all "essential" you see because some Agudah Fressers might not get their chicken cutlets & zup.
Dreamer dreams on some more shtisim which he runs through the top part of his thing during datlight hours.
ReplyDeleteThere is no brain there or human body there (We don't want to be moitzee shem roo in the shveeh shehchal boi).
Every store and public office just put up plastic dividers to separate people from each other which is equivalent to distancing. Of course our dreamer would charge millions for that - but normal and honest people would do the work for cost plus a minimal profit.
Just another case of CooGardneh blabbering.
If anyone from the OU is involved with criticizing and trying to silence any virus related taynos against against Empire & it's mashgichim, the hypocrisy is astonishing!
ReplyDeleteMany kehillos around the United States had all their all their rabbonim sign, including the OU affiliated ones, that visitors from pandemic hotspots are not welcome in their cities and are assered from using any facilities of the kehillos, even to place phone calls to them to ask halacha shaylos.
The Governors of several States imposed legal sanctions and / or criminal charges against NY residents entering their States.
But an obvious OU insider coming here yesterday to protect the OU fort, "can't imagine" that any sane person should have a problem with dozens of NY shochtim rolling into Mifflintown, PA.
I know my grocery was open the whole time I know your liquor store was open the whole time.
ReplyDeleteIn spite of your groiseh Rabbonim saying ....,
In spite of the govt regulations for others.
But to 3:55 it’s all the same.
Abee to blabbermouth....
i personal spoke to nice amount of shochtim and mashgihim that are working now in empire they all told me that non of the kashrus standarts changed it was a business desion to bring in a chasidishe hechsher and the kaj didnt like the idea that why btyey left the standarts didnt drop at all rabbi babad just added some more hidurim you could check that with any of the 65 shochtim and mashgichim working in empire
ReplyDeleteMon Jul 27, 03:15:00 PM 2020 does not know it all.
ReplyDeletePlexiglass panels are very ignorantly believed by many to shield against the virus.
The only thing the panels accomplish is to stop the large particles such as visible spittle and to create a false sense of security among workers who might otherwise walk off the job protesting safety.
Coughing, sneezing, talking & even silent exhaling all produce micro particles which form a "plume". The plume finds it's way around & over the plexiglass & remains suspended in air for up to three hours. Plumes even climb over barriers that are rather high. In supermarket aisles the plume goes over the top of multiple aisles from a single cough or sneeze. A single cough or sneeze in the right trajectory also has enough micro particles to infect up to 5 people.
Before we can even contemplate believing last night's supposed surveyor at 8:53, it would have to make sense.
ReplyDeleteBreuer's rabbonim are known to be upstanding mentchen and their baal habatish leadership has usually been straight. So would they lie about another hashgocho out of spite? Very unlikely.
As even OU hack Hoffman admitted, it doesn't even make sense KAJ would forfeit all that money due to minor politics which doesn't allow the above question to get off the ground.
The OU on the other hand not only has been caught many times with dishonest terutzim but they threaten their employees all the time to keep any scandalous details quiet. And OU mashgichim are notorious for infiltrating online forums to spread cover up propaganda.
And what about if the floor mashgichim aren't even aware of something that happens later? What happens to the birds deemed questionably kosher? Could there be a subset of birds previously considered treif that are now being sold under another hashgocho which KAJ considers a michshol so they want no part of the operation? When Kiryas Yoel started giving their rejects to Rav Polatchek it opened up opportunity for shysters to misrepresent the rejects as the original standard Kiryas Yoel.
As far as the teepaish from the earlier comment at 8:09, he is using the same lame argument that the Agudah took from the ReOpen NY organization which is made up of selfish, greedy people, mostly goyim, but was founded by Chabadskers & whose spokesman is a Chabad BT Pesach hotel operator that has some questionable kashrus besides major problems with mixed swimming & krum magidei shiur.
Most of the government laws have a logic behind them which those with an agenda pretend doesn't exist. Even in the rare case where the government is not logical, we are constrained by aivah issues. And just because a few Liberal politicians are lowlives who encourage riots, that is not mevatel any restriction that makes sense.
Notice 8:09 skirts the whole topic how OU rabbonim contradicted themselves by signing in very shtark language against visitors to the areas where they live. Nice concept there the OU hypocrites borrowed from Liberal goyim called NIMBY (roshei taivos "not in my backyard" but others should suffer instead to spare me). What are the odds that 8:09 is just one more of the hypocrites who is on the OU payroll in some form? The odds are quite high!
https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1887167/crisis-brewing-thousands-of-yeshiva-bochrim-and-seminary-girls-may-have-no-where-to-go-in-3-weeks.html
ReplyDeleteRidiculous article
They shouldn't be traveling anyway and he's worried about felafel fressers
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/people-who-do-not-quarantine-after-travelling-should-not-be-allowed-at-simchahs-federation-says-1.501926
ReplyDeleteEvery single store has plexiglass but its all a rouge...
ReplyDeleteThe only eitzah is to starve because even if they deliver and you pick up after they leave there are still millions of particles in the air which is 50/50 or more % that you'll get sick just touching the box. Besides who know what happen in the store - they are one big bluff as you see they only have plexiglass...
Get the meshigaas stated 12:35??
Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel has a phd in semitic languages from Harvard University;not english literature.
ReplyDeleteThe OU for the more modern Jews, the Agudah for the more heimish Jews run today's Jewish world.
ReplyDeleteThe Chasidim would run the whole world if they only could get together on just a few issues. But each Rebbeh needs, wants, or likes to think that he is the BaSheT himself. Thus, other then some buying power in the food industry, which they excel in, they are second fiddle.
The zoogers, the watchers, the critcs, and all other wanna-bes come here to vent, hock, and otherwise spew all they know and mostly what they don't know right here on Yudels place.
9:58 is just one of many examples of this.
1:16 pm wants to be the letzonus echod doyche meah tochachos. Except he is as "bright" as a door knob, not having any clue as to the science.
ReplyDeleteThere is a huge difference of aerial virus suspension tzevishen indoor & outdoor. And someone can wear gloves to open infected packages.
And what’s about the stuff in the box’s
DeleteAnd the food inside the container? If Empire can “cheat” so Cana y other company.
I guess he’ll put a mask inside his throat....
Maybe that a segula for brains too.
"Could there be a subset of birds previously considered treif that are now being sold under another hashgocho"
ReplyDeleteWe know some Lubavitchers who may be interested as long as the price is good & cheap!
(For such a transaction it's the only time cameras are discouraged around here!)
1:16 pm actually doesn't know French OR English.
ReplyDeleteHe tried to use the word ruse, which is a big word for him as his vocabulary is as sophisticated as an Italian-American garbage truck man, but he instead blurted out rouge which is the French word for a particular shade of red.
1:16 is also the same instigator at 2:56 and at 1000s of other Yudelstake comments. His whole purpose here is attempting to undermine any point that Rabbi Shain & anyone else not trying to detract from Rabbi Shain has to make.
Because as always it's the same pathological OU mashgiach in Kew Gardens named Yanky.
And here's a clue that explains another angle to his idiocy. He's not only belittling the sakonas magaifeh to cover up the health code violations at OU account Empire which is distributed big time by his favorite gesheft West Side Kosher. But in a few days the reckless ferd's wife plans on taking a bunch of girls on a travel camp to the epicenter of the Coronavirus Beast, the State of Florida. This same big mouth who is always attacking others for supposedly "picking & choosing" which gedolim to listen to is arranging something that NO gadol would approve. In fact there are gedolei poskim who lehedya asser in the seforim to go to the epicenter of a pandemic.
Yanky, you need some serious professional help. Seek it out.
When the old Bagel King was on Metropolitan Ave you could have blindfolded Yanky and he would still know how many steps (pesios gassos) it was to get there to fress the treats.
ReplyDeleteBut as tiny as the gantze Kew Gardens is he may still need a little help navigating the rest. Near R' Kalman's yeshiva is the daughter of the Agudah's Moreinu Yaakov Rosenheim. In the back entrance there is a shrink office
MRY Rosenheim was a Agudist. What can a Agudist do or help a Agudah Fresser???
Delete"something that NO gadol would approve"
ReplyDeleteThis is the key to all of CooGardneh's posts and dreams.
What would someone approve or not approve.
He determines what they would approve or would not approve.
And for good measure here is is the icing of his dreams:
"In fact there are gedolei poskim who lehedya asser"
Sounds like he missed his BBQ and had no energy to surf the net for a web address of his Choolim.
BTW:
Not doing your BBQ counts as fasting for a super sensitive as you.
Enjoy your 'TB' Meal.
I was going to go to Paulie for some "PROFESSIONAL" something (help is out of question over there).
ReplyDeleteThen I heard he quit the business.
Then I heard hes back (couldn't let go).
Then I heard I won't grasp his Nivul...
Then I heard he'll send me to a Godol and advise the opposite after he curses him out.
I still would go because I "need some serious professional help".
Then I heard it will be too expensive - time wise (I wont have enough time to surf and BBQ)
Money wise - Californians with Old 'Zaideh" yichus charge like a Av HaMazik - and they don't come bigger then P.... Shlit'a
Thanks for the free advertisement for the "epicenter of a pandemic" trip.
ReplyDeleteYou are all fools. If its all so bad there rare to companies that for the right price Yudel will endorse. Tyson and Perdue are ready to supply you and even save you close to 70% off the price. Leaving enough for Yudel to stip aron his grubby fingers.
ReplyDeleteGreat stuff here for Erev Tisha B'av
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