Protect our children?
Don't push "Ritalin" on them like lollipops.
Ritalin? sure! so the School administrators can provide paying clients to their therapists.
Don't let Therapist [Terrorists](backed by Rabbonim) to break apart families. [Their success rate in at 99%]
She is throwing her children to the dogs. That's what revenge is.
Don't work in unison to support financially the therapists, by sending the parents, the children, etc. to therapy.
That's perhaps why children lost their respect for Rabbonim!
Don't allow the מקוה to break families. Terrorists & Rabbonim do it constantly R"L
מקוה schedules in WG are by pay-for-play?
Get rid of the ones in charge, from the Rabbonim down. Get rid of the corruption in WG.
Don't play dumb.
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Rav Brudny, close down the terapists and their rabunim, they are machrivim of lakewood.
Get felt gelt. Mandy Klein and lichshein are sponsoring this and the puppets dance along.
http://www.vosizneias.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Proclamation-Signees-Final.pdf
WHAT DOES KLEIN AND LICHTENSTEIN KNOW OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ARE SPONSORING A FORUM FOR SOLUTIONS?
Dr vuss hut derr meah hut der deah. It's lichshein from NY is a sponsor of Amudim.
Mikva rabbi away for the summer at camp agudah
What does one have to do with the other.
1) Children have to protected from:
A) sexual abuse.
B) parental kidnapp/alienation
C) drugging them
D) misdiagnosis made by stupid social workers who don't even have a right to diagnose
E) forcing to go to psychiatrist who will definitely just hand out drugs.
Etc etc.
But what's wrong with this topic being discussed as well?
Amudim wrote an article in the Mishpacha Magazine.
the final advice was as follows:
If a family must get divorced that is between the man and the wife. Don't drag a long the children and use them as pawns for leverage in the ugly battle. CHEMED and LCSC continually does just that. They claim to help families what they actually do is they take sides and brainwash the children to testify that they were molested. And they "innocently" claim the kids need therapy and they are the only ehrliche place to go, since they are backed by Ra Bonim and Ass can'im.
In Yiddish they are the Kosher Chzer Fissel they stretch out their foot to show their split hooves. Chemed and LCSC are showing the public that they are kosher.
$chemed. Bmg ripping off gov. Lining the pockets of ceo.
The end of frum websites and blogs
I had written #7.
I understand the response about the disgraceful agencies that are "hosting" this thing. But we do have a problem that we aren't hosting one.
Why don't we host one? Ask the same Lichtenstein and Klein etc to fund another, more structured event hosted by real people. (You can even have a speaker briefly go off on a tangent about parental alienation, arrests, telling kids to lie etc). In fact, it may even prevent another Sorcher from being run out of town.
WG has been quiet last few weeks as many of the maffia heads and members are away on vacation. The longer they keep away the better it is for shalom bayis, for quality of life. for the mikva and hopefully more shuls can be built to fill the needs of the community as there is no seats in shuls to daven.
At the TU convention in Florida the askanim were having fun telling the gvir that there are rebbeim molesters in the vicinity.
מספרים, שכאשר נהג האדמו”ר ה’בית ישראל’ זצל לצאת לטיולו היומי ברחובות שכונת גאולה, פגש לעתים בבחורי ישיבת ‘חברון’, המטופחים והמבושמים, ונהג למחות בקול רם ולהגיב כלפיהם: “פוי, שטינקט ווי א מיידל” (פוי אתה מסריח כמו בחורה).
אפשר ללמוד מהאדמור זצל שאחרי שעבר את טראומת השואה, בה איבד כל משפחתו, ואעפכ החל יום יום לקדש מלחמות ומחאות למען הקדושה וטהרה בעם ישראל, ולמען לימוד תורה כל הזמן, מלפני שחרית כשעה 4 בבוקר עד בערך 10 בלילה, מלחמות ומחאות היו למען התרחקות קיצונית ממיניות וציונות וכ"ש מחרדקים של היום.
וכל ימיו הטיף בתחום זה של מחאות ברבים לחסידיו, שהלכו והתרבו בשנות השישים והשבעים וכו' ועכשיו רואים בחוש שגיוס בבני ישיבה פשוט הצינור לרשעים הציונים לשמד וזימה בבחורי חמד. חוץ מזה גם רואים בחוש שהדור הזה נתדרדר ברוחניות וכמעט שאין פוצה פה ומצפצף, ובשמים יש על זה חרון אף ר"ל, כמעט שאין “יהודים אמיתיים” רק קומץ קטן המוחים למען קדושת המצות והם מקדשים שם שמים ברבים. ועל אלו שלא מוחים נאמר הפסוק משנאך השם אשנא וגו תכלית שנאה שנאתים.
Why are you saying lies about Westgate? Anyone can be a member of the mikva and get to make an appointment earlier. Stop with the richilus.
Westgate mikva hides this perk from many residents its not advertised anywhere. There are residents who paid more than the membership and were not offered the perk. It is only offered to those who are part of the BM of westgate. Members of other shuls are kept in the dark. The rabbonim in charge of the mikva claim they do not support this perk and they were never told about it. A mikva should not give private treatment to anyone. No reason that women who call 2 days in advance get the late appointments since the privileged members book up the first two hours.
WG Mikva is in control of thugs.
If they are supported by the main shul's Ruv or not we don't care.
If the Ruv can't get rid of them ASAP, it's time to resign as Ruv.
The whole lakewood runs on the privileged rich get everything right off the backs of of the rest of us.
Time for change.
A fish always is smelled by the head to ascertain if you want to eat it.
Time for change?, perhaps?
Only you (each individual) can make it happen.
Does WG need another mikvah for the unprivileged?
Perhaps a Ruv also for the unprivileged?
S u c k e r s !!!!!!
Get up and fend for your rights
For all those unhappy with the WG Mikva, there are many other options available. If people would use the other options the Mikva will not be financially viable and will either have to change the rules to remain viable or will shut down.
Chevra, its time to utilize the other options.
the silent majority.
BTW the ones in control of WG mikvah are anshei seldom.
"Ru'im. Vi'chtu'im lashem mi'oid."
Suru nuh ma'uhulei hanoshim etc.
Chevra, its time to utilize the other options.
the silent majority.
The majority is silent no more. More shuls are opening outside WG to fill the need. the emperor has no clothes, its been exposed, the intended model of "one shul one rav" of the entire WG was only a dream that never materialized. A self appointed nameless vaad from 12 years ago seeks to control a few thousand individuals to fill a need of power and control. They have done nothing on their part except take care of themselves and their cronies. no shuls above ground for outside members, no early mikva appointments for those not part of the click. Unfortunately, theyve never adapted to the growth and needs of the entire WG, instead of looking out for the hundreds of families who have moved in over the years, the focus is only how can we stop others.
Suckers???
Do you call victims of mesira suckers?
When members of BMW of WG shul openly hired a lawyer who massered on another shul preventing them from building that is MESSIRA. look up the video of the planning meeting and see how far "chashuvim" will go when blinded by hate kina sinah and the sickness of control and power.
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The words highlighted above in yellow do not appear in the רעק''א or in the שבות יעקב חלק א' סימן י''ד which the רעק''א is referencing. The reason these words were inserted was that the author was trying to promote his agenda and give credence to a concept which he has fantasized. In order to explain why this forgery was perpetrated It is important to explain the agenda and why it is wrong.
A husband has the obligation of שאר כסות ועונה (שכו''ע) if the husband refuses to meet the obligation of עונה we say he is being מעגן his wife. We are also allowed to force him to give a get since he is violating the obligations of שכו''ע. In Siman 77 he is classified as a מורד. Until modern times a husband who did not want to go thru the GET process would just leave town and never be heard from again. This is what the שבות יעקב is addressing, the instance of a מורד. In the scenario of a GET ON DEMAND the husband is prepared to meet his obligations but the wife still wants to leave the marriage, there is absolutely no requirement for the husband to give a get, since he is not a מורד. Therefore it is 100% prohibited from applying pressure on the husband to facilitate the GET. This is a complete contradiction to the feminist philosophy of GET ON DEMAND
In order to pander to the feminist movement and not be considered old fashioned the author has created a pseudo concept which has no basis in HALACHAH. He has claimed that once a woman leaves a marriage and will not go back the marriage is broken. Since the marriage is now broken the woman is anעגונה and now there is a Mitzvah for the husband to give a GET. They are using the שבות יעקב as the source for this. As explained in the previous paragraph this is a major mistake. They are also misclassifying the woman by calling her an עגונה In the vast majority of cases she is not an עגונה but a מורדת. The HALACHA in these instances is that she has to be told to return to her husband. The reason we do not hear of this happening is because any Bais Din who told a woman that she must return to her husband would cause the stream of dollars from women seeking the Bais Din to assist them in leaving a marriage to cease. Since no one is willing to stand up to this crowd their fraudulent Halachas have propagated and are now affecting the Yichus of Bnei Torah.
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In the instance of the woman claiming מאוס עלי and having presented it in a manner which is an אמתלא מבוררת ונכרת to a Bais Din she does not have to return to the husband. This is extremely rare and the reasons for the rarity are out of scope for this article. The Ramoh quotes the Tur on this scenario. I will quote the statement of the Tur on this to make it clearer. In Siman 77 it says as follows ובאר עוד בתשובה וכתב והסכימו חכמי אשכנז וצרפת שבטענת מאיס עלי אין לכוף לבעל לגרש לכן יזהר כל דיין שלא לכוף לגרש בטענת מאיס עלי וכן אין כופין אותה להיות אצלו There is no greater scenario of a broken marriage then one where the woman does not have to return to live with the husband. We still say that even in this scenario it is prohibited from forcing the husband to give a GET. This is a complete contradiction to what the GET ON DEMAND people are promoting.
RAMIFICATIONS
1> No external pressure is applied. The Bais Din tells the husband that he is obligated according to the Torah to give a get. He obeys the Bais Din and gives a GET. This is a classic case of a גט בטעות . If the husband would know that there is absolutely no obligation to give a GET he would never have given a GET. This is a statement from the חזון איש in EVEN HOEZER Siman 99 paragraph 2 on a similar scenario ועוד דחשיב גט בטעות דאילו הוי ידע שאינו חייב לא היה מגרש
2> Indirect pressure applied. There are too many variables involved so this is not in scope.
3> Direct pressure applied. This would also invalidate the GET because it is מעושה שלא כדין
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Westgate is not for everyone. People are expected to talk Rav Zimbal before moving there. Its not a one size fits all community, it depends what age your kids are and you may also not have a place or a shul to daven in.
The shul in WG came with a conforming application to the planning board. The Mispalelim from Ropshitz hired a lawyer to bring up an issue that was outright MESIRA. In addition they reached out unterin tish to planning board members who stalled the application trying to push it to zoning and placing ridiculous restrictions that no other shuls in lakewood have. The Agudah should file an amicus brief on behalf of BM of Kelmwoods.
Just yeshivah leit turned baalleh baatim who have no mesorah of how to be a frum and honest balleh baus.
The attitude being: Once we leave Yeshivah anything goes.
Why don't they Daven in Kahal Chassidim? Most of them had grandparents who Davened Sefard.
"ואת החזיר {החרד"ק} טמא הוא לכם"
שאלו לדעתו של הנצי"ב מוולוז'ין זצוק"ל על חיבורו של משכיל אחד, שהיה בצעירותו בהיכלי התורה ולאחר מכן פרק עול, ופרץ כל גדרי התורה, (בדיוק כמו החרדקי"ם בימינו) היו תלמידי חכמים שסברו כי יש באותו חיבור חלקים טובים הראויים לבוא בקהל, ומששאלו את דעת הנצי"ב על כך, השיב לשואליו בסיפור הבא:
מעשה היה באיש עשיר ונכבד, ולו בת יחידה, צדייקת וצנועה. יום אחד חלתה הבת במחלה קשה ר"ל. נראה היה שהיא חולה בשחפת. הרופאים שהובהלו אל מיטתה הגיעו לידי מסקנה ברורה, כי העצה והתרופה היחידה למחלתה היא שתאכל בשר חזיר. זאת אומרת שרק בשר זה יוכל להבריא את גופה ולהחלימה.
אבל כאשר שמעה את דבר הרופאים, אחת הייתה דעתה – תמות ולא תאכל בשר חזיר. חלפו ימים, ומצבה של הבת הורע. האב בגודל צערו, פנה אל רב העיר בבקשה שימצא דרך לשכנע את בתו החולה לשנות את החלטתה. ואכן הרב הזקן הטריח עצמו אל מיטת החולנית, ובדברי שכנוע ממושכים הבהיר לה את דעת רבותינו, שדרשו: ''אלה המצוות אשר יעשה אותם האדם וחי בהם' ולא שימות בהם" (יומא פה) ומכיון שהדבר נוגע לפיקוח נפש, ע"פ תורה הכל נדחה מפניו.
מששמעה החולנית את דברי הרב, קיבלה עליה לשמוע לקול הרופאים, רק תנאי התנתה, מכיון שכך נגזר עליה מהשמים וע"פ הלכה פסק לה הרב שזה מותר לה, מבקשת היא: שאת החזיר ישחטו כדת וכדין, על פי כל הלכות שחיטה. ואכן, מילאו את בקשתה.
והנה, לאחר השחיטה ובדיקת הריאות נמצאה שאלה בריאה. אז שוב סירבה הבת לאכול מן הבשר עד שהרב יפסוק את פסקו. בלית ברירה שיגרו את הריאה אל הרב. הוא התבונן בה שעה ארוכה אך סירב לפצות את פיו.
לאחר שעות ארוכות שאלוהו עוד ועוד, אמר להם הרב: "איני יודע כיצד להשיב לכם. יכול אני לומר לכם, שאם הייתה שאלה זו בבהמה טהורה, כי אז הייתי עונה מיד ומשיב 'כשר, כשר'. אך עתה, כאשר מדובר בחזיר, איך אוכל להוציא מפי עליו את המילה 'כשר' ??? והנמשל על החרד"ק – מובן מאליו... חזיר פושט טלפיו להראות שהיא כשירה.
הנמשל על החרד"ק – מובן מאליו...
Some of the principals and Mikanchim are also רודפים.
What a bunch of scammers in Lakewood.
Torah Umesorah worked a deal with all of the principals should not hire anyone that didn't take the torah umetzorah course.
Also the "Model-Lesson" must be through one of their protegees for a $150.00 for first lesson and #200.00 for second model lesson.
Torah umetzorah is ripping off the poor yungerleit from their last pennies.
Torah ume..sorah doesn't belong in Lakewood, it was created for "out-of-Town" places.
Get out of here.
Their building is a waste of tax payers money
You're mamesh a kofuy toiv. Where would we be without Torah Umesorah. It's true, Reb Ahron ZT"L had something to do with Torah in America, but Torah Umesorah? I mean we would all be lost without direction if not for them! How could you talk bad about them? SHEESH!
TU got a million from Mandy Klein to talk about abuse. Now every rebbe is accused
whats this latest story about?
Reb Shraga Feivel Z"L created Torah Umesorah for out of town places, not for Lakewood.
Torah Umetzorah decide to rip off the oilum, they came with a gimmick...only us, only our mentors for model lessons, etc.
Reb Ahron, Z"L would have sent them packing in the blink of an eye.
Why are we still so gullible in Lakewood?
They Really got you brainwashed.
Do your homework about Torah umesorah and maybe you'll get enlightened on how much koiches Reb Aaron put into Torah Umesorah.
Don't forget, in Reb Aaron's days Lakewood was a 'out of town' Vacation Town.
TU today is all about money money. Whatever the gevirim ask for they will deliver.
Wednesday night there was a community event re: Drug and Alcohol Abuse, etc.
The audacity of the ones that were in charge, they put a well known ruv that backs abusers, sycho therapists, breaks apart families, makes sure there is "NO-Achdus" in his community r"l.
They sat him on the Dais next to Reb Usher Chaim Lieberman. Shoimu Shumayim.
NO-ACHDUS" ? There goes the Ruvs Shabbos Shuvah Drusha, that's his favorite topic.
Is TU involved in getting rid of a Rebbe in S Fallsburg who helped expose a story of a made up abuse allegation? He wassupposedly pushed out because he stood up to defend a fellow rebbe who was falsely accused. The court cleared him and called out the lies of the made up story. stay tuned we will not be silent. TU board are u listening????
Does anyone knows who is the therapist in the Gruen case shown in the picture?
TU not only didn't back the Rebbe in The Kiamesha Hebrew Day School who lost his job because he testified in court,but they are incapable of securing him his severance due to him for his many years of service.What are they good for???
absolutely nothing. They threw this reb be under the bus just to satisfy the girls from Cleveland and others in position of power. TU is getting more irrelevant by the day. Their attempt to come into lakewood fools no one.
Westgate mafia making sure their wives get the early appointments at the mikva everyone else must wait a bit longer even newly weds.
I was so sure that the Westgate mafia wives don't go to the mikvah.
For the same money or haltered you can say that instead of saying some lie about their wives going first.
They are not home when the wives go early. They are busy with important 'business' which can only be done in the PM
Love that 'pay and play' attitude for a vaibeh mikveh. Who gave you you chosson class????
Yea. These days you got to run to the Bais at the ends of Seder in order to keep the Sholom. You also got to keep the Sholom so to have a Bais to run to.
Hopefully you won’t need a Rodef to take you to your Bais or to make sure your on time at Bais Sholom.
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