Tuesday, September 16, 2025

Reb Chaiym Shmelevitz, Z"L Self explanatory

 Here is the way Rav Chaim Shmulevitz זצ״ל (Mirrer Rosh Yeshiva) is quoted on that shmues:

שיחות מוסר:

״שבטי־קה גזרו ביוסף דין מיתה, אולם לא הרגוהו אלא מכרו אותו. למה? מפני שאמרו 'ויאמר ראובן אליהם אל תשפכו דם השליכו אותו אל הבור הזה אשר במדבר ויד אל תשלחו בו... ונראה מה יהיו חלומותיו' (בראשית ל״ז, כ׳-כ״ב).
ומבאר רבינו: ברגע שנפסק הדין שלא לפרסם הדבר לאביהם – נפסל הדין, והפך להיות בטל. ממילא לא היה בכוחם עוד להוציאו להורג, אלא מכרוהו לישמעאלים״.


“The Shevatim ruled in their Beis Din that Yosef deserved the death penalty. Yet they did not kill him, rather they sold him. Why? Because as Reuven said: ‘Do not spill blood. Throw him into this pit in the wilderness, but do not lay a hand on him... and we shall see what will become of his dreams’ (Bereishis 37:20–22).

Rav Chaim explained: At the moment they decided not to reveal the matter to their father, their original psak din became nullified. A judgment that cannot be made public loses its validity. Therefore, they no longer had the authority to execute him, and instead they sold him to the Yishmaelim.”

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well put !

Anonymous said...

The psak was plenty public. Stop supporting the 'terrorist' which you have no business with.

Machine Learning said...

The above was written by a Philly robot who was programmed to defend Sholom, regardless of whether the "defense" computes as logic or not!

Asarah Yuchasin said...

Ess passt that Philly's co-conspirator for the mamzerus scam, Nota Greenblatt (who was put in cherem by R' Chatzkel Roth's beis din), was notoriously telling everyone he can't give protim in what is a "very private matter"!

And ess passt that a Kamenetsky mechuton who hated a certain yungerman & told his wife to get an abortion said he will only divulge that he didn't use the Gvul Yaabetz Dovid Cohen heter of mental health pikuach nefesh of the mother - but other than that he's not discussing his reasoning!

Anonymous said...

The anti philly/sholom terroristin are well equipped. Like they are supported by the likes of Iran, Iraq and Qatar like unlimited funds and unlimited shtusim.
The same could be said about the other sides terroristin. The issue is not the terroristin who would not learn or be religious even if were no issues to fight about. But the bitul tairah caused by them to non related people is mind boggling.

Anonymous said...

Everyone has seen Rabbi Bess's write up of the heter. Very thorough. With documentation and recordings of testimony, including family testimony.