Is it mutter to daven in the JFK shul? It is under the authority of the NY Board of rabbis who are mostly frey. There was no mechitza until 2005 and even now, whenever the Reform and other chayos come to daven, they take the mechitza down.
Why is a Jewish company under KSA kashrus officially sponsoring such an outrageous event - a Jewish pre-Passover dinner with chazir on the menu ??!!
Shmaltz also makes two beer types with pictures of women in a state of undress that is ervah mamash. I don't know if KSA has the gall to allow their symbols on the bottles.
http://www.jewcy.com/tags/jeremy_cowan
But there is also a nobility to He’Brew. Shmaltz takes its brewing seriously, and it also tries to maintain a direct connection to Judaism. Jeremy continues, “We are interested in having a direct tie to Jewish culture and the community and we find fun, creative ways to make that connection.
Tonight at Coda, Pre-Passover Beer Dinner (Pork Included)
By Brian Yaeger, Monday, Mar. 22 2010
Who says you only drink beer on Purim?
As a sort of pre-Passover party, local brewing company Shmaltz is taking over tonight at Coda Jazz and Supper Club, which hosts Live City Revue every Monday. A mishmash of irreverent music and theater is already par for the course. At tonight's Jewish Soul Food beer dinner, don't expect a neutral kosher ― parve ― course among the classic New York dishes paired with a few He'Brews.
In a highly unlikely intentional move, instead of 10 plagues, there will be 10 plates, all à la carte. Among the unkosher ― traif ― offerings, diners can choose small plates like chickpea and fava bean soup with smoked ham hocks braised in Shmaltz Genesis Ale, bacon-wrapped sweetbreads with wild mushrooms and pearl onions in a Messiah Bold Ale reduction, or the chopped Petaluma chicken livers with Shmaltz cracklins, or entrees such as crispy Marin pork belly with Jerusalem artichoke purée and bay scallops.
For dessert, instead of extra portions of the chopped apples-and-nuts dish called haroset, there will be haroset cheesecake with salted Maldon caramel.
"Every year the level of koshering utensils, which were never koshered in the past, rises; demands to replace utensils that were not replaced in previous years, which adds up to expenses of millions of shekels," said an Eilat hotelier this week, complaining about the stricter requirements of making Eilat hotels kosher for the week of Passover.
"In previous years we were able to reach agreements, but this year the Eilat Religious Council is puting on more pressure and larger monetary demands than in the past," said the hotelier, complaining about the requirements.
Hotel managements say that things were very different just a few years ago, when they were allowed to conduct the Passover Seder using microphones, and now they may not. They also cannot play music in the lobby on the holiday any longer on Fridays and holidays. The hoteliers are complaining this year in particular of the unvoiced threats by the Religious Council to take away their kashrut certificates.
The Israel Hotel Association estimates that the cost of making a hotel "Glatt Kosher" - a higher standard than normal - for Passover is NIS 80,000 for a small hotel, without its own kitchen, all the way up to NIS 1.2 million for the large hotels.
"There is a significant difference between Jerusalem and Eilat, since Eilat cannot exist without entertainment in the lobby and by the pool," said the head of the Eilat Hotels Association, Shabtai Shay. "The burden is felt more in Eilat, since it is a city where most vacationers are nonreligious, and not religious families coming for the Passover Seder. They come for a vacation and suddenly there are restrictions on entertainment on Friday night and it is even not allowed to buy vegetables with bugs. The Religious Council constantly raises new demands. Shay said he is in favor of kashrut, "but we are not in favor of turning [Eilat] into Jerusalem or Bnei Brak."
The head of Eilat's municipal kashrut department, Rabbi Arnon Azoulay, admitted that "every year we add a little." He said that had they required the hotels to do everything at once 14 years ago, it would have been prohibitively expensive, and that they have been adding a little every year - and in two years the work will be finished. Azoulay says most of the expenses are minimal for a large hotel.
The Chief Rabbinate warned consumers Tuesday to be careful when purchasing hand-made shmura matzot, as it had discovered a large quantity of "phony" matzot in a warehouse in Be'er Tuvia, near Kiryat Malachi. The matzot claim to bear supervision of Rabbi Dov Lior, Chief Rabbi of Kiryat Arba, and Rabbi Yitzchak Amrabi of Be'er Tuvia. The two rabbis did not supervise production of the matzot, and the Rabbinate said in a statement that there was a strong possibility that the matzot were not even kosher for Passover.
According to the Rabbinate, many boxes of the matzot have already been distributed around the country, sold for a relatively low price. Local rabbis in communities around the country have been sent flyers with images of the packages, in order to ensure that word gets out among those who may have already purchased the matzot. The boxes feature a picture of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef on a Haggadah.
MUNCIE, Ind. (AP) -- Need some dough? Police say someone has dumped hundreds of breads, bagels and buns along a river in Muncie, Ind.
Sanitation workers spotted the mess on the central Indiana city's east side. City police Sgt. Bruce Qualls recognized the baked goods as the product of Panera Bread. The chain cafe has a location on the city's north side.
Qualls says restaurant managers assured him they would look into what happened. The unsold baked goods are usually given each day to charitable organizations. Panera Bread spokeswoman Linn Parrish says managers didn't immediately know how the bread got to the river bank.
Rabbi Shain, you have to give us more then that. There is much confusion in this matter. Please clarify. I heard that R Belsky holds that these fishy worms are mo problem. Is that true?
You already had someone quoting you the maamar from Rav Kook, so gei aveck.
And in case you were bavorning about the worms, the OU is already taking the most lenient position possible so it's not shayech in this case for the Queens Vaad to do any worse.
Aren't you chevre busy kashering the kitchen in Lancaster? How do you have time to bicker over here?
That JFK makom tiflus is in Queens Vaad territory. Is this another example where the Vaad is cozy with non-orthodox streams? There was no mechitzah until 5 years ago and only then because Rabbi Lookstein intervened.
The NY Board of Rabbis used to give on Manischiewitz before the OU. Even the member rabbis that are officially orthodox are often questionable, like Marc Schneier.
Anonymous said... SCANDAL ROCKS NORTH MIAMI BEACH BH COMMUNITY KOLLEL NOW IN PRIVATE HANDS
For the past few months questions have been raised regarding the Kollel as it changed from being a community run organization, to becoming a privately run business.
After leaving the local Yeshiva under clouded circumstances Rabbi S. decided that perhaps he would be better suited to serve as a Rosh Hakollel ( at a salary in excess of $100k per year) of a Community Kollel.
That appears was not enough, so he decided to make some changes which every individual can check out on line….. Here are 4 questions…..
1: Why were the documents of the Kollel changed, and 3 new names now appear, the rabbi, his wife and his mother in law??? In addition, the 2 existing names require their own inquiries as to their suitability of serving …..
2: Why did the rabbi lie as to his place of residency in regard to the Homestead laws? See responsa of Reb Moshe Fienstein and Reb Yaakov Kamenetsky OBM that a rabbi must not lie on his taxes if he is to be trusted for community issues. Rabbi S claims to be living in Miami Beach for the last 4 years.
3: Why did Rabbi S for months cover up matters of Aishes Ish, and treat the hurt party with contempt. (this is in court, and evidence will be presented to support this claim). He claimed that seeing the evidence would be loshon horah, even after he protected an individual involved who is learning in kolel due to his brother being a honoree..
4: Wielding a very questionable stick, ( which only he would dare to call Daas Torah), he encouraged one of his supporters who was deeply involved as a partner in a case of fraud, to “masser” on his former partners placing them and their families in jeopardy, and possibly face prison time. Something is very wrong with this picture. Documents in support of this information can be found at http://egvsys.miamidade.gov:1608/wwwserv/ggvt/txcaw01.dia?folio=0232220100550 & http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2008/0211/23500275.tif
We as a group of concerned local and out of town balebatim, urge you to check the facts and read the documents, and you will see that the above is true. We feel it is time for the Chosheve Roshei Yeshiva from Lakewood to stop this funny business which is being perpetrated as if it has their approval, and prevent further chilul Hashem in NMB. Let us as a community retake the Community Kollel, make it a true Mokom Torah, and not allow it to be a private laundry. Let the books be examined by accountants and made public as well as answer where all the cash contributions went in the thousands of dollars.
Tabla’s version of Seder, the unleavened bread bar, 11 Madison Avenue (25th Street), will be held on March 30 at 6 p.m., with an informal service, $95 plus tax and 20 percent service, $50 for children 10 and younger: (212) 889-0667.
Handmade round whole-wheat shmura matzo for Passover, made in Brooklyn and supervised by Rabbi Avron Keller, who also oversees the kosher kitchen at Le Marais, will be sold in the restaurant’s retail shop, 150 West 46th Street, through April 4; $30 for a one-pound box.
http://amashgiachspeaksout.blogspot.com/
It seems that the OU mashgiach at Le Marais who helped cover up the treif and attacked Yitzchak Bitton on the blogs is giving a private hashgacha on the matzas
http://www.tablany.com/files/menus/dinner.pdf
At Tabla he doesn't have to cover up because they openly list pig & shrimp on the menu
The OU's Rabbi Dov Schreier is also with the Queens Vaad and is lauded in the Queens Vaad propaganda magazine as helping implement systems he learned at the OU.
What kind of "systems" might that include?
Make up your own mind after reading what he has been accused of:
Please be advised that DOV SCHREIER is sending out false emails alleging that I am retracting my previous statements. THIS IS A LIE. But then again, it doesnt surprise me that after running up against lies for six months that this would be their Modis Operendi at this point in the game.
Allow me to point out that a sheeloh is answered as it is posed. If the facts are wrong so is the pesak. Even you Reb Yudel have shown such examples-take Reb Moshe's shellack used in candy.So, if the facts are wrong all these letters have to be questioned.
Rav Wei (the well known expert on toloim) is matir because he claims that it is a miut sheno motzui and does not require a bedkiah. He has published 3 volumes on toloim and he is matir this anaskis worm.
Let me also add. All worms that are visible are removed. The issue is that in some it cannot be seen; for example the salmon is the worst. Rav revach has a special light that he uses to see them. This makes no sense since chazal did not have it-lo nitna torah lemalache hashores. To really find them you would have to cut it into pieces. Where is that written? This last I heard from one of teh big posim in Boro Park.
So, there are two reasons. (a) It is not motzui (b) if not seen we do not have to use extra-ordinary techniques.
I am not discussing Rav Belsky's approach which also has value. Chazal were matir and there is no evidence that we have a new worm. It is a theological issue and he does have a point. Are we to say the tanoim and amoroim erred. I'm sure tha Rav Eliyashev, Rav Wosner & rav Karelitz among others know the answers & they have said that it's Ossur-not permitted
let me also add that they claim that the worms are found in the benei meayim. I do believe that this is not true. If it were then there is no sheeloh. It is in the gemoroh Chulin 67b. Read Rav Belsky's teshuva. That is the assumption. I think that the whole sheeloh is misrepresented.
One final remark. I reread my note and I noticed that it was mdified. Please do not do this. I will not ever put in another post if you do not fix it up.
Kashrus @ Lancaster is not up to my snuff. I'm yet not sure why, but I'll have the answers soon. I'm searching and researching the place fun de veitens. More to come.
It would be nice if you found out the comment I made that the issue has nothing to do with the benei meayim. In fact, I doubt if they are examined. They throw it out. who eats it and it is inside.
Think of it. The fish lives a year or so till it grows. it swallows many fish and picks up a few worms. These come from smaller fish. Imagine the odds that it just swallowed one with a worm. It is obviously infrequent.
Rav Belsky has made another assumption. I found it amazing that you do not try to find out the facts. Gedolim can be given mistakenly wrong information. What is the truth?
The anisakis worm goes into the kishkes, then works its way through the kishkes into the flesh & continues growing there. Rav Belsky has his heter based on his facts, Rav Eliyashev told me that "one can't rely on Rav Belskys' "heteirim" as it's not based on the facts, e.g. the treif cows heter from Rav Belsky"
Please reread the pesokim of the gedolim you quoted. They claim that they find this worm in the intestents and taht it cannot be cleaned out. I doubt that. It is inside the benei eayim and it is thrown out. You are relating another point that the chokrim say that it comes by ingesting and thus assur. This is another issue.
Rav belsky gave two reasons. (a) The first was that chazal were matir the worms found in the flesh that were not seen entering the benei meayim. There is no proof or reason to suspect a shinui and thus we have to ignore teh chokrim. It is like teh sheeloh of killing lice on shabos. Many are still matir-like the Mishne berurah.
(b) in the sugya of kukiyani Chulin 67b it says "minah gavli". he has a NEW peshat which is difficult. He learns taht it continues to grow in teh fish. In my opinion, it is very shver to fit that into Rashi. it means it was generated there. They believe in spontaneous generation. We do not want to mock chazal?
BTW I told you Rav Vaya's heter on the worm. Also, I pointed out the other reason that we do not require special tools to get them out and no where does it say to tear them up. Salmon, especially, cannot be seen with the naked eye. We would not know it without specail tools. but, the heter covers all. besides, it is a miut sheno motzui. Not all worms are the anisakis.
In general, they are all removed even by gentiles. we are talking about the ones that cannot be seen readily.
I think Lancaster will be better than stam VHQ. There will be no pressure from the caterer because Greenwald is a good guy or the elements back home that pressure keeping the unacceptable standards.
I want to clarify one important point. What you say that the worm is ingested and then works its way into the flesh is true. Of course, you re not talking about worms found in the intestints.
The rabonim all state that they are found in the intestints also. I doubt, if any Rov or mashgiach saw any in the benei meayim. In fact, I doubt if they opened it for inspection. What for?
What you state is science. Just making the point, that the case is over stated.
So, again. It is important to always know the exact problem. They probably (or might have) still been machmir. Ask them what they think about killing a louse on Shabos.
It is the same anisakis that is found both in the flesh as well.So the one &the same that is in the guts which is Ossur by all means is also found in the flesh. So it isn't a different type that is in the flesh "minei-kegavlei".
Yes. But, the ones in the benei meayim were not seen by any one. It is a scientfic statement. No mashgiach has seen it. One of the rabonim even claims that it is hard to clean the benei meayim from them. Who eats it? So, again it is just science.
Also, the Talmud is matir because they ask why is it not found in the benei meayim? The implication is that they do NOT travel as the chokrim state. Maybe, mine gavlei. if we accept the talmud as to sppontaneous generation then there are two types those that come from the ouside and those that were generated. The Talmud in Chulin has achhborim that grow from the ground (as well as zochor unekevah) So, there is no real proof.
I wish that those Rabonim would not say taht it is seen in teh benei meayim and cannot be cleaned out.
Let end our dialogue with the following point. I do not disagree that you have a point. But, it depends on accepting the chokrim. It is not mamosh against the Talmud. Maybe, the same creature can come through a male and female and also through spontaneous generation? I gave you the example of the rat/mouse.
But, what is more important is that the Rabonim whose pesokim you are advertising have added an element which I think you can agree is amazing. They claim that the mashgichim are finding them in the benei meayim. Do you think this is so?
I spoke to a scientist who is working with the OU. There are many kinds of worms found in fish. I doubt if a mashgiach can tell one from the other. To quote "you are looking for needles in a haystack. Might as ell give up eating fish".
Everything that you said about finding in the intestines comes from science and not any of our people's observation.
He had no data to agree or disagree with Rav Vaya.
We are in some pickle. We have now made virtually impossible to eat fish which are parents and chazal etc. had no trouble with. Is something not wrong?
I found the letter. Actally, he is NOT matir. Reread please. But, he sits on the fence; yesh ponnim lekan uponim ulekan. However, he recommends to be machmir. In other words, blogs should cool it. It si not as if there is no reason for kulos. as I said, you have to say the talmud is wrong.
Frankly, all worms in flesh are muter according to the talmud except those in the visera; i.e organs. Those come through the nose while sleeping. (fish sleep)
I reread the letter from R. Miller. It is clear that he has a sofek in halacha. The proof is that he allows and recommends gefilte fish. This is problematic because if prohibited we are evatel issur lechatchila. But, if it is a sofek then there are poskim who allow bitul. So, it all falls in place. He paskens not to eat it because sofek deoraysoh lechumrah but bitul helps. But, anothe rperson who wants to be mekil has what to rely on. This is how I read him.
BTW THe sofek he explaines at the outset. It is whether we can rely on the Talmud bizeman hazeh on spontaneous generation issues. Do we pay attention to scientists when they contradict the Talmud. The Chazon Ish said we do. The Mishne Berurah seems to not be bothered by the problem.
The argument to listen to science is that maybe those worms (or lice) are not the same ones-or maybe nishtanu hoitim (it may be local to some places). The other side says that why should we suspect a change and thus whatever it says in the talmud no matter how formulated is binding and immutable. Of course, a Sanhedrin may be able to overturn it. But, we are bound by chesimas hatalmud.
So, it is all a thelogical question. It is impossible to resolve. It may be related to Rabbi Slifkin's agenda. He got attacked for saying things that Rabonim are saying albeit nicer.
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The writing for the daas Rav Wosner is hard to read but it sounds like he assers - contrary to the rumor that he was mattir.
So is anyone mattir now besides Rav Falk from Gateshead?
http://www.jfk-airport.org/chapels.htm
Scroll down for the International Synagogue.
Is it mutter to daven in the JFK shul? It is under the authority of the NY Board of rabbis who are mostly frey. There was no mechitza until 2005 and even now, whenever the Reform and other chayos come to daven, they take the mechitza down.
Why is a Jewish company under KSA kashrus officially sponsoring such an outrageous event - a Jewish pre-Passover dinner with chazir on the menu ??!!
Shmaltz also makes two beer types with pictures of women in a state of undress that is ervah mamash. I don't know if KSA has the gall to allow their symbols on the bottles.
http://www.jewcy.com/tags/jeremy_cowan
But there is also a nobility to He’Brew. Shmaltz takes its brewing seriously, and it also tries to maintain a direct connection to Judaism. Jeremy continues, “We are interested in having a direct tie to Jewish culture and the community and we find fun, creative ways to make that connection.
http://www.shmaltz.com/HEBREW/genesis_messiah.html
All HE'BREW products are kosher certified to the strictest Orthodox standards by Kosher Supervision of America (KSA).
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/foodie/2010/03/who_says_you_only_drink.php
Tonight at Coda, Pre-Passover Beer Dinner (Pork Included)
By Brian Yaeger, Monday, Mar. 22 2010
Who says you only drink beer on Purim?
As a sort of pre-Passover party, local brewing company Shmaltz is taking over tonight at Coda Jazz and Supper Club, which hosts Live City Revue every Monday. A mishmash of irreverent music and theater is already par for the course. At tonight's Jewish Soul Food beer dinner, don't expect a neutral kosher ― parve ― course among the classic New York dishes paired with a few He'Brews.
In a highly unlikely intentional move, instead of 10 plagues, there will be 10 plates, all à la carte. Among the unkosher ― traif ― offerings, diners can choose small plates like chickpea and fava bean soup with smoked ham hocks braised in Shmaltz Genesis Ale, bacon-wrapped sweetbreads with wild mushrooms and pearl onions in a Messiah Bold Ale reduction, or the chopped Petaluma chicken livers with Shmaltz cracklins, or entrees such as crispy Marin pork belly with Jerusalem artichoke purée and bay scallops.
For dessert, instead of extra portions of the chopped apples-and-nuts dish called haroset, there will be haroset cheesecake with salted Maldon caramel.
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=371905001434&index=1
We'll be cooking up some "kosher and some traif" and pairing it with Shmaltz Brewing's fine beers
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1158331.html
"Every year the level of koshering utensils, which were never koshered in the past, rises; demands to replace utensils that were not replaced in previous years, which adds up to expenses of millions of shekels," said an Eilat hotelier this week, complaining about the stricter requirements of making Eilat hotels kosher for the week of Passover.
"In previous years we were able to reach agreements, but this year the Eilat Religious Council is puting on more pressure and larger monetary demands than in the past," said the hotelier, complaining about the requirements.
Hotel managements say that things were very different just a few years ago, when they were allowed to conduct the Passover Seder using microphones, and now they may not. They also cannot play music in the lobby on the holiday any longer on Fridays and holidays. The hoteliers are complaining this year in particular of the unvoiced threats by the Religious Council to take away their kashrut certificates.
The Israel Hotel Association estimates that the cost of making a hotel "Glatt Kosher" - a higher standard than normal - for Passover is NIS 80,000 for a small hotel, without its own kitchen, all the way up to NIS 1.2 million for the large hotels.
"There is a significant difference between Jerusalem and Eilat, since Eilat cannot exist without entertainment in the lobby and by the pool," said the head of the Eilat Hotels Association, Shabtai Shay. "The burden is felt more in Eilat, since it is a city where most vacationers are nonreligious, and not religious families coming for the Passover Seder. They come for a vacation and suddenly there are restrictions on entertainment on Friday night and it is even not allowed to buy vegetables with bugs. The Religious Council constantly raises new demands. Shay said he is in favor of kashrut, "but we are not in favor of turning [Eilat] into Jerusalem or Bnei Brak."
The head of Eilat's municipal kashrut department, Rabbi Arnon Azoulay, admitted that "every year we add a little." He said that had they required the hotels to do everything at once 14 years ago, it would have been prohibitively expensive, and that they have been adding a little every year - and in two years the work will be finished. Azoulay says most of the expenses are minimal for a large hotel.
"Before the world of truth can come, the world of lies must disappear" - Rav Avraham Yitzchak Kook
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/183151
The Chief Rabbinate warned consumers Tuesday to be careful when purchasing hand-made shmura matzot, as it had discovered a large quantity of "phony" matzot in a warehouse in Be'er Tuvia, near Kiryat Malachi. The matzot claim to bear supervision of Rabbi Dov Lior, Chief Rabbi of Kiryat Arba, and Rabbi Yitzchak Amrabi of Be'er Tuvia. The two rabbis did not supervise production of the matzot, and the Rabbinate said in a statement that there was a strong possibility that the matzot were not even kosher for Passover.
According to the Rabbinate, many boxes of the matzot have already been distributed around the country, sold for a relatively low price. Local rabbis in communities around the country have been sent flyers with images of the packages, in order to ensure that word gets out among those who may have already purchased the matzot. The boxes feature a picture of Rabbi Ovadia Yosef on a Haggadah.
Nu! Spotnut on the vaad! Were waiting!
Biur chometz?
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/03/23/us/AP-US-ODD-Dumped-Bread.html
Filed at 2:44 p.m. ET
MUNCIE, Ind. (AP) -- Need some dough? Police say someone has dumped hundreds of breads, bagels and buns along a river in Muncie, Ind.
Sanitation workers spotted the mess on the central Indiana city's east side. City police Sgt. Bruce Qualls recognized the baked goods as the product of Panera Bread. The chain cafe has a location on the city's north side.
Qualls says restaurant managers assured him they would look into what happened. The unsold baked goods are usually given each day to charitable organizations. Panera Bread spokeswoman Linn Parrish says managers didn't immediately know how the bread got to the river bank.
Rabbi Shain, you have to give us more then that. There is much confusion in this matter. Please clarify. I heard that R Belsky holds that these fishy worms are mo problem. Is that true?
Rav Wosner assers.
Rabbi Belsky was supposed try to sell it last week to Rav Eliyashev who also assers.
Nu, vos vilt men shoin?
You already had someone quoting you the maamar from Rav Kook, so gei aveck.
And in case you were bavorning about the worms, the OU is already taking the most lenient position possible so it's not shayech in this case for the Queens Vaad to do any worse.
Aren't you chevre busy kashering the kitchen in Lancaster? How do you have time to bicker over here?
That JFK makom tiflus is in Queens Vaad territory. Is this another example where the Vaad is cozy with non-orthodox streams? There was no mechitzah until 5 years ago and only then because Rabbi Lookstein intervened.
What about Rabbi Vaye? He is supposed to be the expert on tolaim.
What did R' Shlomo Miller decide in the end?
The NY Board of Rabbis used to give on Manischiewitz before the OU. Even the member rabbis that are officially orthodox are often questionable, like Marc Schneier.
rabi miller from the lakewood bais din says its ok
this was posted on a different blog
Anonymous said...
SCANDAL ROCKS NORTH MIAMI BEACH BH
COMMUNITY KOLLEL NOW IN PRIVATE HANDS
For the past few months questions have been raised regarding the Kollel as it changed from being a community run organization, to becoming a privately run business.
After leaving the local Yeshiva under clouded circumstances Rabbi S. decided that perhaps he would be better suited to serve as a Rosh Hakollel ( at a salary in excess of $100k per year) of a Community Kollel.
That appears was not enough, so he decided to make some changes which every individual can check out on line….. Here are 4 questions…..
1: Why were the documents of the Kollel changed, and 3 new names now appear, the rabbi, his wife and his mother in law??? In addition, the 2 existing names require their own inquiries as to their suitability of serving …..
2: Why did the rabbi lie as to his place of residency in regard to the Homestead laws? See responsa of Reb Moshe Fienstein and Reb Yaakov Kamenetsky OBM that a rabbi must not lie on his taxes if he is to be trusted for community issues. Rabbi S claims to be living in Miami Beach for the last 4 years.
3: Why did Rabbi S for months cover up matters of Aishes Ish, and treat the hurt party with contempt. (this is in court, and evidence will be presented to support this claim). He claimed that seeing the evidence would be loshon horah, even after he protected an individual involved who is learning in kolel due to his brother being a honoree..
4: Wielding a very questionable stick, ( which only he would dare to call Daas Torah), he encouraged one of his supporters who was deeply involved as a partner in a case of fraud, to “masser” on his former partners placing them and their families in jeopardy, and possibly face prison time.
Something is very wrong with this picture.
Documents in support of this information can be found at
http://egvsys.miamidade.gov:1608/wwwserv/ggvt/txcaw01.dia?folio=0232220100550 &
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2008/0211/23500275.tif
We as a group of concerned local and out of town balebatim, urge you to check the facts and read the documents, and you will see that the above is true. We feel it is time for the Chosheve Roshei Yeshiva from Lakewood to stop this funny business which is being perpetrated as if it has their approval, and prevent further chilul Hashem in NMB.
Let us as a community retake the Community Kollel, make it a true Mokom Torah, and not allow it to be a private laundry. Let the books be examined by accountants and made public as well as answer where all the cash contributions went in the thousands of dollars.
Chag Kosher veSamayach
2:07 PM, March 23, 2010
What I'd like to know from Gedolei HaPoskim is if they hold Nishtaneh HaTevah or that previous Gedolei HaPoskim ate such fish.
I know R' Belsky is Mattir. What about R' Schachter?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/dining/24fcal.html
Tabla’s version of Seder, the unleavened bread bar, 11 Madison Avenue (25th Street), will be held on March 30 at 6 p.m., with an informal service, $95 plus tax and 20 percent service, $50 for children 10 and younger: (212) 889-0667.
Handmade round whole-wheat shmura matzo for Passover, made in Brooklyn and supervised by Rabbi Avron Keller, who also oversees the kosher kitchen at Le Marais, will be sold in the restaurant’s retail shop, 150 West 46th Street, through April 4; $30 for a one-pound box.
http://amashgiachspeaksout.blogspot.com/
It seems that the OU mashgiach at Le Marais who helped cover up the treif and attacked Yitzchak Bitton on the blogs is giving a private hashgacha on the matzas
http://www.tablany.com/files/menus/dinner.pdf
At Tabla he doesn't have to cover up because they openly list pig & shrimp on the menu
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R' Shraga Feivel Mendlowitz ztl writing on corrupt rabbonim in kashrus almost 90 years ago in Dos Yiddishe Licht
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Part 2
The rabbi being criticized in Miami Beach is a supporter of the rosh hamenuvolim, Leib Tropper.
Forget the rumors. Rav Miller was supposed to put out a written teshuva, so where is it?
Yasher koyach to Crony Watch for this resource.
http://amashgiachspeaksout.blogspot.com/2007/03/ou-tactics.html
The OU's Rabbi Dov Schreier is also with the Queens Vaad and is lauded in the Queens Vaad propaganda magazine as helping implement systems he learned at the OU.
What kind of "systems" might that include?
Make up your own mind after reading what he has been accused of:
Please be advised that DOV SCHREIER is sending out false emails alleging that I am retracting my previous statements. THIS IS A LIE. But then again, it doesnt surprise me that after running up against lies for six months that this would be their Modis Operendi at this point in the game.
Allow me to point out that a sheeloh is answered as it is posed. If the facts are wrong so is the pesak. Even you Reb Yudel have shown such examples-take Reb Moshe's shellack used in candy.So, if the facts are wrong all these letters have to be questioned.
Rav Wei (the well known expert on toloim) is matir because he claims that it is a miut sheno motzui and does not require a bedkiah. He has published 3 volumes on toloim and he is matir this anaskis worm.
Let me also add. All worms that are visible are removed. The issue is that in some it cannot be seen; for example the salmon is the worst. Rav revach has a special light that he uses to see them. This makes no sense since chazal did not have it-lo nitna torah lemalache hashores. To really find them you would have to cut it into pieces. Where is that written? This last I heard from one of teh big posim in Boro Park.
So, there are two reasons. (a) It is not motzui (b) if not seen we do not have to use extra-ordinary techniques.
I am not discussing Rav Belsky's approach which also has value. Chazal were matir and there is no evidence that we have a new worm. It is a theological issue and he does have a point. Are we to say the tanoim and amoroim erred. I'm sure tha Rav Eliyashev, Rav Wosner & rav Karelitz among others know the answers & they have said that it's Ossur-not permitted
let me also add that they claim that the worms are found in the benei meayim. I do believe that this is not true. If it were then there is no sheeloh. It is in the gemoroh Chulin 67b. Read Rav Belsky's teshuva. That is the assumption. I think that the whole sheeloh is misrepresented.
One final remark. I reread my note and I noticed that it was mdified. Please do not do this. I will not ever put in another post if you do not fix it up.
any problem in buying hand shmura matzos that were leftover from last year. Unlike machine matzos the year is never put on the box.
Kashrus @ Lancaster is not up to my snuff. I'm yet not sure why, but I'll have the answers soon.
I'm searching and researching the place fun de veitens. More to come.
To the Queens Vaad child who takes to impersonations as a means of discrediting critics,
Why is a major investigation needed in Lancaster? We already know what your shvache standards are at home without traveling for hours.
Agav, are you going to use Amish mashgichim out there because they fit the criteria of looking frum?
Dear Reb Yudel,
It would be nice if you found out the comment I made that the issue has nothing to do with the benei meayim. In fact, I doubt if they are examined. They throw it out. who eats it and it is inside.
Think of it. The fish lives a year or so till it grows. it swallows many fish and picks up a few worms. These come from smaller fish. Imagine the odds that it just swallowed one with a worm. It is obviously infrequent.
Rav Belsky has made another assumption. I found it amazing that you do not try to find out the facts. Gedolim can be given mistakenly wrong information. What is the truth?
The anisakis worm goes into the kishkes, then works its way through the kishkes into the flesh & continues growing there.
Rav Belsky has his heter based on his facts, Rav Eliyashev told me that "one can't rely on Rav Belskys' "heteirim" as it's not based on the facts, e.g. the treif cows heter from Rav Belsky"
Dear Rav Yudel,
Please reread the pesokim of the gedolim you quoted. They claim that they find this worm in the intestents and taht it cannot be cleaned out. I doubt that. It is inside the benei eayim and it is thrown out. You are relating another point that the chokrim say that it comes by ingesting and thus assur. This is another issue.
Rav belsky gave two reasons. (a) The first was that chazal were matir the worms found in the flesh that were not seen entering the benei meayim. There is no proof or reason to suspect a shinui and thus we have to ignore teh chokrim. It is like teh sheeloh of killing lice on shabos. Many are still matir-like the Mishne berurah.
(b) in the sugya of kukiyani Chulin 67b it says "minah gavli". he has a NEW peshat which is difficult. He learns taht it continues to grow in teh fish. In my opinion, it is very shver to fit that into Rashi. it means it was generated there. They believe in spontaneous generation. We do not want to mock chazal?
BTW I told you Rav Vaya's heter on the worm. Also, I pointed out the other reason that we do not require special tools to get them out and no where does it say to tear them up. Salmon, especially, cannot be seen with the naked eye. We would not know it without specail tools. but, the heter covers all. besides, it is a miut sheno motzui. Not all worms are the anisakis.
In general, they are all removed even by gentiles. we are talking about the ones that cannot be seen readily.
I think Lancaster will be better than stam VHQ. There will be no pressure from the caterer because Greenwald is a good guy or the elements back home that pressure keeping the unacceptable standards.
Dear Rav Yudel,
I want to clarify one important point. What you say that the worm is ingested and then works its way into the flesh is true. Of course, you re not talking about worms found in the intestints.
The rabonim all state that they are found in the intestints also. I doubt, if any Rov or mashgiach saw any in the benei meayim. In fact, I doubt if they opened it for inspection. What for?
What you state is science. Just making the point, that the case is over stated.
So, again. It is important to always know the exact problem. They probably (or might have) still been machmir. Ask them what they think about killing a louse on Shabos.
It is the same anisakis that is found both in the flesh as well.So the one &the same that is in the guts which is Ossur by all means is also found in the flesh. So it isn't a different type that is in the flesh "minei-kegavlei".
Yes. But, the ones in the benei meayim were not seen by any one. It is a scientfic statement. No mashgiach has seen it. One of the rabonim even claims that it is hard to clean the benei meayim from them. Who eats it? So, again it is just science.
Also, the Talmud is matir because they ask why is it not found in the benei meayim? The implication is that they do NOT travel as the chokrim state. Maybe, mine gavlei. if we accept the talmud as to sppontaneous generation then there are two types those that come from the ouside and those that were generated. The Talmud in Chulin has achhborim that grow from the ground (as well as zochor unekevah) So, there is no real proof.
I wish that those Rabonim would not say taht it is seen in teh benei meayim and cannot be cleaned out.
Let end our dialogue with the following point. I do not disagree that you have a point. But, it depends on accepting the chokrim. It is not mamosh against the Talmud. Maybe, the same creature can come through a male and female and also through spontaneous generation? I gave you the example of the rat/mouse.
But, what is more important is that the Rabonim whose pesokim you are advertising have added an element which I think you can agree is amazing. They claim that the mashgichim are finding them in the benei meayim. Do you think this is so?
FYI
I spoke to a scientist who is working with the OU. There are many kinds of worms found in fish. I doubt if a mashgiach can tell one from the other. To quote "you are looking for needles in a haystack. Might as ell give up eating fish".
Everything that you said about finding in the intestines comes from science and not any of our people's observation.
He had no data to agree or disagree with Rav Vaya.
We are in some pickle. We have now made virtually impossible to eat fish which are parents and chazal etc. had no trouble with. Is something not wrong?
RAV SHLOMOMILLER WASMATIR BUT SAID THAT ITS GOOD TO BE MACHMIR
SEE THE LETTER
http://www.matziv.com/pictures/ravshlomoletterbugsinfish
Dear anonymous,
The website you cited for Rabbi Miller is non existent. Submit a new post.
It is always good to be machmir. Why not. don't eat fish.
Anonymous
Dear Anonymous,
I found the letter. Actally, he is NOT matir. Reread please. But, he sits on the fence; yesh ponnim lekan uponim ulekan. However, he recommends to be machmir. In other words, blogs should cool it. It si not as if there is no reason for kulos. as I said, you have to say the talmud is wrong.
Frankly, all worms in flesh are muter according to the talmud except those in the visera; i.e organs. Those come through the nose while sleeping. (fish sleep)
Anonymous
Dear Anonymous,
I reread the letter from R. Miller. It is clear that he has a sofek in halacha. The proof is that he allows and recommends gefilte fish. This is problematic because if prohibited we are evatel issur lechatchila. But, if it is a sofek then there are poskim who allow bitul. So, it all falls in place. He paskens not to eat it because sofek deoraysoh lechumrah but bitul helps. But, anothe rperson who wants to be mekil has what to rely on. This is how I read him.
Anonymous
BTW THe sofek he explaines at the outset. It is whether we can rely on the Talmud bizeman hazeh on spontaneous generation issues. Do we pay attention to scientists when they contradict the Talmud. The Chazon Ish said we do. The Mishne Berurah seems to not be bothered by the problem.
The argument to listen to science is that maybe those worms (or lice) are not the same ones-or maybe nishtanu hoitim (it may be local to some places). The other side says that why should we suspect a change and thus whatever it says in the talmud no matter how formulated is binding and immutable. Of course, a Sanhedrin may be able to overturn it. But, we are bound by chesimas hatalmud.
So, it is all a thelogical question. It is impossible to resolve. It may be related to Rabbi Slifkin's agenda. He got attacked for saying things that Rabonim are saying albeit nicer.
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