Monday, August 13, 2012

Fish sticks & Sarimi

All Fish sticks & Sarimi are made from "minced" pollock fish, which is an infested fish. Therefore no fish sticks or Sarimi should be used. This includes no califonia roll at the sushi station, no imitation crab, etc.

The Gerorges flounder is supposed to be one flounder that is clean, so the fish mongers tell you oh we only have (or also cary) the Georges flounder-it's a catch all for fraud-Why should you believe them?

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

One rabbi wrote that he investigated flounder to see if any type does not have anisakis and he found the ones imported from Holland do not have. Do you know anything about this?

Anonymous said...

Sometimes I'm more scared of the heimishe retailers lying & telling us what we want to hear so we buy from them than I am afraid of the goyishe wholesalers lying.

Moyreh Nevuchim said...

A confusing situation at a supermarket led to a michshol. The supermarket has fish from one than one concessionaire. Concession #1 sells a whole lot of "flounder" which I found out because they are under multiple hashgochos, some of them heimish, it is actually tilapia because they are not allowed to use flounder. We buy some fish & eat it, then realize it is from another concession in the supermarket which does not have heimish hashgochos and does use flounder.

heimishe retailer said...

Trrrust me!

Fish Shtick said...

Don't you think it's ridiculous that from all the fish stick manufacturers under haymisha hashgocho, there is NOT ONE making the fish sticks with an acceptable species? It's always the bottom line and the pollock is the cheapest. Why don't these greedy bottom line people figure out that enough of us stopped eating their product that it's worth it $$$ to produce something acceptable l'halacha?

SH............ said...

Fish Shtick

It was pretty ridiculous When Reb Yudel was 'shraying' that 'finkles place' was treif. That is, it was ridiculous for Eight Years. THEN the truth came out and it and it was NOT so ridiculous to his Chasideshe and Litveshe and Briskeh Customers.
So if you choose to read Reb Yudels blogs, just read it and keep quiet.

A Mashgiach Who Cares said...

“All Fish sticks & Sarimi are made from "minced" pollock fish, which is an infested fish. Therefore no fish sticks or Sarimi should be used”.

Reb Yudel, here we go again. You either don’t remember what was posted on your blog, or you don’t bother to read it. To refresh your memory, please read here:
http://yudelstake.blogspot.co.il/2012/01/sushi-fish-sticks-imitation-crab-surimi.html

In brief, I take issue with your assertion that ALL fish sticks are made from minced Pollock fish. Besides having produced Pollock blocks from intact whole fillets, which were then processed into fish sticks, I have also posted links where fish sticks are advertised as being produced from fillets. So much for accuracy.

You further state that Pollock fish is an infested fish. My response has consistently been that while it may be true that infestation has been found in Pollock fish, the relevant question is, can anything be done about the infestation, and is it done?

As a mashgiach who has done numerous fish productions, I can safely answer, that there are things which are being done about the infestation. There are various methods used for different species of fish in checking for parasites. Of all the particular species that I've supervised, in each instance I was satisfied that the factory was making a serious effort to remove the parasites. Therefore, while the fish may have some occasional incidence of infestation BEFORE it reached the factory, and there even may be some parasites that slip through into the final product, I still feel that a whole, they do a pretty good job, and each individual piece isn’t considered "muchzak" to be infested.

I take the opportunity to note, that in this scenario, the debate regarding the permissibility of ingesting the anisakis worm, is rendered moot. I posit, that even those who choose to be stringent in this matter, are halachically permitted to consume these products, since after they have been checked in the factory for parasites they do not have the status of “muchzak betolaim".

Finally, I add, that Reb Yudel has conspicuously failed to explain to the reader why minced fish is prohibited to be eaten. Is it checked before it is minced? How many times is it minced before it’s packed? How was it determined that there is still a בריה שלימה in the final product?

A Mashgiach Who Cares said...

Just so that the flounder species isn't left out of the fun, I take the opportunity to share with you that flounder fillets are thinner than Pollock fillets, and are even easier to check! And they are checked…

יאכלו ענוים וישבעו

Anonymous said...

IF YOU WANT TO SEE FISH WORMS:
(although i have a reason to hold like the GAVAD of london R' Efraim Padwa Shlita).
GO this week to Kosher Experience in Shoprite, buy fillets of silverbrite Alaskanwild caught salmon, have it skinned, freeze it just enough to become ice, defrost it straight away, marrianade it if you wish, the grill it on a grill ( even a electric flip it over & grill the other side too.
Braek it up anywhere you will see like almost transparent white hairs sticking out, pull them gently, & boo you have it, litterally hundreds of them.
Although as mentioned above I personally don't have a halachic problem with them, but they are not too geshmack to be quite honest.
For those of you who go according to the poskin who are oisrim, be careful with Silverbrite.
Yudel please let us know if I have discovered the worms or something else?

Anonymous said...

http://www.int-res.com/articles/dao_oa/d094p201.pdf
I believe Silverbite is a type of Keta or Chum.

Anonymous said...

http://www.npafc.org/new/publications/Documents/PDF%202004/791(Japan).pdf

Anonymous said...

http://www.fooduniversity.com/foodu/seafood_c/resources/ocean%20fin/Cold%20Water/Salmon/ChumSalmon.html

Anonymous said...

u r slleping with FREUNDS

Anonymous said...

FLOUNDER FROM HOLLAND IS INFESTED
EVEN THOUGH THE EIDA SAYS NOT

Anonymous said...

Who cares about worms shabbos @ freunds

Anonymous said...

Mi keamcha Yisroel goy echud boretz