Sunday, August 12, 2012

Positive "system" for Vegetable checking

Why is Positive being pushed so much by me and others.
It's not because of greenhouse grown, because greenhouse grown also has insects al beit under some control better than open field grown especially re miners.
The method of checking for insects by looking in a glass bowl on a light box was a system that we have finally proven is not reliable at all. Any foodservice that is still using that system, one may not eat any item that requires bedika.

The "complete" positive system of  checking including their tollerances, etc is still the ONLY one that is to be relied upon. The OU was the first of the major certifiers that bit the bullet & is instituting their methods by proper training of their mashgichim.

Not all mashgichim are "trainable" to use the positive system. They may still be excellent mashgichim in other areas.

NOTE: The most serious item in hashgocha is proper checking of infestation, and knowing which items require checking. The is no ainoi ben yomo or other kulahs to rely on.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/Industry/Kosher-botanicals-Rabbis-insects-and-quality-control/?c=%2B6of2e5RNImtd9yrbGZ9jg%3D%3D&utm_source=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter%2BWeekly

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

The OU might be instituting proper checking for lettuce but they have had a backslide on broccoli. They didn't even inform the public when they all of sudden started using fresh broccoli after avoiding it for years and now have their mashgichim perform useless "checking" of the florets.

A Mashgiach Who Cares said...

Reb Yudel, you’ve addressed a good question:
“Why is Positive being pushed so much by me and others”?

When I saw this line, I thought that we were going to get a straight answer. I’m sorry to say that I was disappointed by your non-answer.

You start off by saying that it’s not because they’re greenhouse grown, and you kindly concede that greenhouse grown vegetables also have insects.

So the reader is waiting to hear “what is the reason that you’re pushing it”? But no further elaboration is forthcoming.

You immediately lash out at those using light tables, making a blanket assertion that any item requiring bedika is prohibited to be eaten if it was checked using that system, which is a debatable point unto itself.

You then give a testimonial blurb for Postiv that: “The ‘complete’ positive system of checking including their tollerances (sic), etc is still the ONLY one that is to be relied upon”.

The humble reader is still waiting to hear a clear response, why really are they the only one that is to be relied upon?

Markopolo said...

It very simple
You on Postive pay roll

Binyomin of Tudela said...

It was quiet for an entire couple of months but it is inevitable that one of these sad characters like Markopolo will again jump out from their holes and scream that Yudel is getting paid off.

With all these "informed" accusations of payoffs, Yudel must be filthy rich.

shmuel Stern said...

How does a restaurant or caterer that has a mashgiach that does in house checking and washing of vegetables deal with infested cabbage? Most can wash and dry large leafy vegetables. How is shredded cabbage washed and dried?