Sunday, February 16, 2020

Lakewood Bais Horah was "Officially" taken over by the Star-K- Mazel Tov





19 comments:

Anonymous said...

This take over by the Star-K has the blessing of the KCL.

The KCL can breath a sigh of relief, as they don't have to wait in vain for moshiach to be mattir the chazir.

Anonymous said...

רחם נא ד' אלוקינו על ישראל עמך, ועל ירושלים עירך, ועל ציון משכן כבודך, ועל מלכות בית-דוד משיחך, ועל הבית הגדול והקדוש... רחם''. ''רחם''. רחם''. ''רחם''.

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Timtum said...

R' Shloyma grew up in Baltimore getting "nourishment" from whoever ran the show before Heinemann. If they already before Heinemann were manufacturing bogus "heterim" in kashrus vaiss Ich nit, but the Baltimoronic ra-bonim were certainly already molesting kids & covering it up which the shtot has long been infamous for. The earliest known rabbonishe molester - who was around so long ago that he was mesader kiddushin for Avi Shafran's parents - has a convicted child molester son working as Star K mashgiach.

Anonymous said...

יש דבר אחד שצריך לחזק אותנו, וכל יהודי באשר הוא, יותר מהנשק החזק ביותר, וזה היהודי השומר על יהדותו, והאשה השומרת על צניעותה, חזק חזק חזק חזק, הוא יותר חזק לפעול ישועות מהכל, יש בצניעות הזה הכח להציל את כל עם ישראל!!!!

דרש רבי עקיבא בזכות נשים צדקניות יצאו ישראל ממצרים" (ילקוט שמעוני, תהלים פ' ס"ח, ס' תשצ"ה) וכן מצאנו שאמרו חז"ל: "גדולה הבטחה שהבטיחן הקב"ה לנשים יותר מן האנשים שנא' נשים שאננות קומנה שמענה קולי בנות בוטחות האזנה אמרתי

וכן מובא מדרש זוטא (רות פרשה ד) אין הדורות נגאלים אלא בזכות נשים צדקניות שבדור.

יה"ר שנזכה בקרוב להתגשמות חזונו של הנביא: כי כה אמר ד' כאשר הבאתי אל העם הזה את כל הרעה הגדולה הזאת כן אנכי מביא עליהם את כל הטובה אשר אנכי דבר עליהם" (ירמיה ל"ב, מ"ב

Anonymous said...

R. Miller specifically states that quinoa is kitnious.
The letter just address the infestation issue which they themself checked and made their decision which brand is good and which not, lechatchila vs bedieved. Etc.
And to Accuse the BH of just accepting Star-K carte Blanche is a outright lie.
The fact that you keep on pushing this falsehood once again unfortunately proves what your real intentions are.
And they are not good, positive or halachacly correct.

Anonymous said...

Reb Yudel has a good shmeker, the Star-K is infusing the bais horah with their kullos, heteirim. They have some of their trainees in there already. The Star-K is deeper entrenched than you could imagine.

Yudel is right, the bais horoah only listed the hashgocha of the star-k by those they claim not to be infested, the other ones it doesn't say the hashgocha.

when listing the star-k one, why did the bais horoah have to write kosher li'pesach on the star-k one.

In conclusion, the Star-K took control of the bais horah, therefore I am stopping to use the Bais Horoah.

Anonymous said...

I was sure this yudel is just..., but the more I look at this, I think he's got some very valid points, and the bais horoah is history if the star-k has their fangs dug in.
i'm out.

Anonymous said...

Insiders say that the star-k operates like the Chinese government.
They are shrewd in taking away hashgochas from others.
They will lie without any shame, under the radar, sneaky, one should trust them like a snake.
I hear they control the AKO kashrus organization also.

Knighted Vorpal Sword said...

You can dance around all you want, but quinoa is not kitniyos. It's no more kitniyos than a peanut.

Baltimore People Republic said...

Has Star K denied yet that Coronavirus is a problem?

Anonymous said...

Nobody is interested to hear if quinoa is Really kitnious or not since it’s hard to know. Thus, those people who like it eat it on peasach too. Those that don’t, don’t eat it all year round either and may-as-well say it kitnious.
As far as infestation, there were 2 schools of thought either yes or no. Now the Miller Bais Dins claims, via their own research, that sometimes yes bugs sometimes no bugs.

Anonymous said...

I'm not responding to Nightmare Warmonger's Word directly, as he's basically lost contact with reality when it comes to basic Halachah.

But for the rest of you - BEWARE! One of the favorite ploys of those who've dismissed the Halachik Mesorah is to needlessly complicate the issues in order to find a non-existant opening for "Rabbi Alz'muttar" to allow any fundamentally problematic Halachik issue.

Peanuts: - have been included in the din of kitniyos - even though there is perhaps a sofeik involved regarding peanuts (being that peanuts are essentially roots and not beans/grains) - we Ashkenazim universally avoid them on Pesach. The issue of them being repackaged in sacks with grain remains is still quite present.

I've already made it clear - repeat CLEAR - that quinoa is essentially no different than corn and rice, and no sensible mind will ever claim otherwise. (Sorry, Rabbi "Alz'muttar"...)
No use to continue beating a dead horse...
feed peanuts to the...….., so they wouldn't think they are humans.

Anonymous said...

Once again - READ the letter totally and then decide if Star K (quinoa is not kitniyous) took over the Bais Horoah or not.

In paragraph 4 the Bais Horah decides, after major research and bedikos, which of the Star K quinoa are not infested (contrary to Horav Hagaon HaZadik Kevod Kedishas Reb yudel Shlit'a's opinion that ALL quinoa is infested) and can be used.
It happens to be that one of those brand are Kosher for passover ACCORDING to the Star K - the Bais Horoah is using this " Kosher for passover" label as identifying exactly which brand it is.
However, just in case guys like Horav Yud... inaccurately decide that this is also a approval to use on passover, the Rosh Ha-bais Horoah, Horav Miller Shlit'a WROTE in his own handwriting that it is NOT so and it may NOT be used on Passover.
Now you decide if the Heiligah Star K is taking over the Bais Horah or not?????

OU Eyepopper said...

https://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/nearly-a-year-after-eendorsing-same-sex-marriages-an-orthodox-rabbi-performs-his-first/

Open "Orthodox" start "sidur kidushin" for toyeva

Mr. / Mrs.? Meiri used to be administrator of Avi Weiss's place in Riverdale

These mushchossim put up a "wedding" website displaying devarim assurim while they explain the mechitza situation in the catering hall by Crest Hollow

https://www.cresthollow.com/your-menu/orthodox-glatt-kosher/

Crest Hollow's OU caterer is the exclusive kosher option.

I thought the OU got out of the homo business, leaving that for the Star K fakers?

Anonymous said...


As if the OU is made aware of these affairs and they proactively encourage it.
Another 'Kranke' Comment.

Anonymous said...

AFAIK, the Bh does not exist any more. Has anyone seen a Rov there?

Chronicles of an OU mashgiach said...

The caterer & hashgocho know exactly when two faigs are 'tying the knot'. When the OU initially got out of these sick affairs which R' Moishe in the Igros describes as the most disgusting thing possible, the Star K came running to grab the money making opportunities. Rabbonim have been blasting the Star K for publicly denying they would certify such events while quietly sneaking in mashgichim disguised in jeans & baseball caps. Utterly pathetic behavior which it's surprising the Queens Vaad didn't think of it first.

But even you have enough brains to know this, don't you Yanky? So what's your bone in this that you are acting more uptight than just stam your contrarian self? Oh yeah, dein molester mechuton is what the velt calls a "switch hitter", vos er iz amol a faig and amol hot er normala tayvos.

Anonymous said...

It about time the LBH is doing something right.
Going back to the old (maybe oldest) Talmidim for guidance is a Rosh haYeshivas dream especially Reb Aron Zatzal.
Following the young Lakewooders who claim to be talmidim but only sat and took up space in BMG is the ultimate foolishness as described fully in Tanach.

Anonymous said...

Yes