Thursday, April 19, 2018

Star-K Shabbos Mode appliances- It's an issur Gumur!

Star-K's Shabbos- Mode appliances are ossur to use.
It all started a number of years back on "Mesifta-Di'rakiah" [short-wave-radio]. Rabbi Moshe Heineman stated that on Shabbos in a Shul one may "ki'lachar-yad" turn on or off the alarm on shabbos.

A participant stated that he has a magnetic type switch that one can use for the alarm on Shabbos that would be permitted even according to the "Chazon-Ish". An individual asked on the program can one reverse a magnetic polarity on Shabbos....? Rabbi Heineman responded forget the magnetic type switch "the Chazon-Ish is only a DAAS-YOCHID", & do it ki'lacharyad.

The STAR-K also utilizes the light-bulb to accomplish BISHUL-YISROEL.
Reb Shlomo Zalman's comment re: Star-K's light-bulb Bishul yisroel.."one of the main causes of Intermarriage R"L."

Click on letter to enlage!
The Shabbos mode appliances may not be so "shabbos friendly" after all.

Rav Shlomo Miller, Shlita [Toronto-Lakewood] recently publicized a letter re: Shabbos-mode ovens that one may not adjust temperatures on Yom-Tov, contrary to the kosher certification.

In respect to the above publicized letter from Rav Miller, we are not publicizing the name of the kosher certifier.

Others have researched the "Shabbos-friendly" appliances & concluded that according to ALL "Poiskim" it is not permitted to be used in the Shabbos mode. It is more than "Gramahs" that are being activated.

See Star-K link

And therefore you may even decide to use your computer on Yom-Tov without the screen, according to the Star-K.

The SANHEDRIN would have taken up such a case in the context of a "zukun-mamrai".
The Star-K's shabbos mode appliances are worse than the kosher switch.


Anonymous said...

Did R' Yisroel Reisman really agree to putting a timer on hot plates, maybe cheshboning that R' Moishe would change his mind after the Sassoon tragedya?

Or did his moderner shul machers put it on Agudah of Madison letterhead without the rov's permission?

That shul is no full of moderner that it is jokingly known as Young Israel of Madison. Guys in leather or srugie yarmulkas chewing gum mitten davenen, walking dogs Shabbos afternoon, etc

Qveens said...

Should have figured it was sketchy when the Queens Vaad holds of it

Anonymous said...

Whose older?
Reb Moishe Heineman or
Reb Shloimeh Miller?

Who decided that RSM is poisek achron in the USA?

Anonymous said...

Reb Moishe Heineman or
Reb Shloimeh Miller?

Consistently when R' Shloyma has dinged on Heinemann, the gedolei Eretz Yisroel were also against Heinemann.

Enough said.

Caterers cooking on Shabbos via Kosherswitch? said...

Rav Schochet learned by R' Aron Kotler ztl.

Anonymous said...

1. Have an idea, go to poskim here and in Israel, present the idea, they agree and give a quiet go ahead.
2. some kanoim, frummer then thou, jealous biased person or shvitzer / tumbler decides its not heimish, frum, or otherwise good for the people. starts a tumelt, gets a faction going then sends activist /terrorist to incite the oilom. Then gets some 'gedol' to back them up or to otherwise lobby to bashmutz the guy with a idea who did get halachik support.
This is the story in 90% of all these modern invention.
Unless you can box it in a frum or some tzedakah package your ideas are dead on arrival.

Anonymous said...

Tue Apr 28, 10:33:00 PM

Not true.

There was no fight against KosherLamp because there is no chilul Shabbos.

Here & with Star K appliances there IS chilul Shabbos & Yomtov

Plain & simple.

Anonymous said...

The manufacturer of Kosher Lamp also makes a Shabbosdik toilet paper which even Belsky who screams "misas beis din" over KosherSwitch, says is ok.

Not kidding by the way!

Stoliner said...

Did someone mention that Rabbi Belsky is very angry about Kosher Switch?

do the WHOLE story said...

Wed Apr 29, 08:51:00 AM 2015

Do your homework. Remember its good 90%.

Shabbos mode is basically yom tov mode with some Shabbos features (not including tampering with temperature knob).

And its definitely as kosher as some eruvim in this and other countries.

Anonymous said...

All the security cameras use a computer with or without a screen.
They have them all over. In most shuls and Yeshivos and no one says boo. Not even Yudel.

So lets hear it - Oh that's different because...........

Anonymous said...

Sounds like the security camera status hit a raw nerve somewhere.

Anonymous said...

Did anybody see the new "Shabulb" from Sunlite? It's an actual LED bulb that has a lever on the actual bulb that you can use to uncover the LED's in the bulb and turn on the bulb or cover the LED's to turn off.

Anonymous said...

Some one must have pushed some "more then Gramah" button recently.
Here he goes again on a moot subject.
Those who use it use it and those who don't (most of us) don't.

Anonymous said...

Whats worse yudel. Talking loshon hora during davening,wearing a leather yarmulka? or chewing gum during davening

Anonymous said...

R. Miller.
Poisek Achrin.
Brought in by Yeshivah - AKA Vaad.
Aye. Good for the Vaad.(If He listens to them).
How about the rest of town?
Are they allowed to rely on others?
There are many many other Rabbanim in town.

Last but not least - R. Miller knows tons. But....

Anonymous said...

Why can't Shain write a coherent article anytime. Starts in middle of thoughts ends in middle of thoughts and paskins like his opinion is the one that counts.

Anonymous said...

With the brand new "Shabbos Keeper" (works with newer refrigs) there is nothing to worry. It goes into "Shabbos keeper mode by itself for Shabbos AND Yom Tov for the next 30 years or so.

Buy it now!!! Before......

Yudel with his cronies will come up with some pesakim from some Rabbis (Only the ones HE likes) VERY SOON. But for now its the most kosher thing around.

Please get your children Married VERY soon so that they can't intermarry. But its not a guarantee for not going Off the Derech (OTD). For that we will have to wait for Yudel's research (&/or payoff) for him to discover, or invent, that connection.

Anonymous said...

May my old standard non computerized fridge live ad ma'oh ve'esrim, please!

Anonymous said...

Shabbos mode is still very useful even if you don't feel comfortable with adjusting the temperature. It allows one to open and close the door without worry of causing the oven to turn on automatically. Also, BTW on most current models you can bypass the 12 hour shutdown without shabbos mode.

Anonymous said...

Fri Apr 20, 03:21:00 PM 2018

Your absolutely right.
But this blog , so far, is only interested in knocking RABOONIM not to tell us the truth.
This site NEVER told us that originally the Rav in charge of Shabbos mode DID get approval of the rabbonim here AND in Israel (not all but most).
But the terrorist got involved and the rest is history.
And from then on the Rav is A masis Oomadiach because Yudel's Rabbis may or may not sgree with the psak.
Just another day of life.