אבל בדברי שמים אם לא חזר בו בסתר מכלימין
אותו ברבים ומפרסמים חטאו ומחרפים אותו בפניו
ומבזין אותו עד שיחזור למוטב וכו'
עין כסף משנה (המקור)
"פשוט
חפץ חיים הלכות
ל"ה כלל ד' ס' ז' ......לכן מותר להכלימו ולספר בגנותו בין
בפניו.....צריך לשפטו לצד החוב...ולשפוך בוז עליו.. מותר לפרסמו ולגלות חטאיו בשער
בת רבים וכו'
וע' עוד חפץ חיים הלכות
ל"ה כלל ד' ס' י'
"לחזהיר בניו ותלמידיו" וכו'
ועין עוד בכתבי חפץ חיים –
מכתב מ"ו- ע"כ הנני מודע בשער בת רבים
שבמקום הריסת הדת וחרבן
הדת-נעשה כל זה כהלכה "מצוה רבה וחובה גדולה לעשות כל מה שביכולת לגדור גדר
ולעמוד בפרץ , ואין בזה משום חשש איסור.
ומוסיף הח"ח "ופליאה לי על כל גדולי
ישראל, המחשים בזה ואינם יוצאים במחאה גלויה, וכו'"
תדע שזה לא בא ממבקשי אמת
ותורה וכו' רק רק מה ס"א ודורשי שקר ואינם מאמינים בתורה מסיני ר"ל.
There is an offer on the table of $2,400.00 to any Tzedokah of his choice, if the current
We are all aware that he can talk about insects, etc. talk is cheap.
https://shows.acast.com/kashrus-anytime/episodes
43 comments:
We get it, you don't like Rabbi Eisen.
Why don't you go after the gangster shul rabbis who are the real problem?
It's pretty much guaranteed that if Rabbi Eisen no longer had the job one day, his replacement would be much worse.
You may as well extend the offer to Chaim Schwartz being able to demonstrate there was a shomer Shabbos Yid present at certain accounts while he was in denial there was any problem on orders of his puppet master Schonfeld.
No cheating. Which means that the woman with the tight jeans who is member of a Conservative temple does not count as a "mashgicha". And the baal habos who hurries over in his car when the store alarm goes off on Shabbos while being MATZDIK that it doesn't constitute chilul Shabbos also doesn't count.
The above pair of scandals were at Queens Vaad accounts on Long Island. The further you get away from KG & KGH the more lax the Vaad becomes because they assume no one will catch them all the way out there. When they still did get caught with several scandals, Schonfeld & Schwartz thought they could just throw the regional rosh mashgichim Shaya Richmond under the bus & pin all the blame on him. Except the buck didn't stop with Richmond who did things because they were approved higher up.
Some more Jew lovers l’kavod the nine days.
Of course it’s all l’shaim shamayim.
What then ?!?!?
Have the Algemeiner lost their minds?
https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/07/17/orthodox-judaism-must-embrace-female-rabbis/
They just published an op-ed by an Open Orthodox rabbi demanding that everyone accept women rabbis!
It doesn't matter what disclaimer they attach to it that it's his opinion, not their's.
Why give a platform to this kind of Reformer garbage?
It's of course NOT l'shaim Shomayim that Schonfeld & Schwartz are being machshil the rabim with non-kosher food. They are l'shaim the almighty Dollar.
It's sad that I have to be on the flipside. One of my friends was one of many citizens attacked by Schwartz & associates for being mefarsem on Queens Vaad scandals, whether it was actually true they were mefarsem, directly or indirectly, or if their "guilt" was just a figment of Schwartz's paranoid imagination. When one of the goons complained about my friend to his Rav, his Rav just brushed it off that even if it's true he exposed them, such behavior was l'shaim Shomayim. Of course a Rav can only say that and not be retaliated against when he lives outside Queens. Do you know how much tzorus poor Rav Teitelbaum zl had from the Queens Vaad reshoyim even though he was a quiet man who didn't talk much? They did & said things to him just because in their supreme arrogance they couldn't stand that he wouldn't eat from them. And it figures that the same hypocrite Schwartz who RUNS to line up for the BILLIG prices at non-Vaad Rosenblum's while preaching to everyone else from the other side of his mouth to only patronize Vaad stores, was trying for years to make himself a macher in Rav Teitelbaum's shul, USING Rav Teitelbaum in an attempt to create that fake yeshivish-heimish image that he uses to dupe bnei Torah into eating non-kosher Vaad essen. It's a living $$!
Sometimes the Algemeiner provides comic relief. When they attacked R' Elya for being anti-Chabad, they very oddly dug up an ancient picture to identify him to readers that almost no one - even in the yeshivishe velt - had ever seen. It was when he had a still completely black beard. I'm guessing the picture was taken when he was in late 1940s Mirrer Kollel. lol.
Wed Jul 22, 11:49:00 AM 2020
Pretty sorry to hear that you were not there when R Teitelbaum Zatzal allegedly refused Qveens Waad food. You would of zoift it up in a flash even though it was not BBQed and it was not Friday afternoon.
The fact that have no real job, no real 'dollars', no real life and no real food and sometimes join the 'no line' 'billig' (sign of iffy Kashrut) gesheft on Leffers to see what he will donate to the 'non existing poor people' you claim to represent just makes you spy on all others who have a Job to pay bills and thus have a good life and can eat regular meals at regular times.
Enjoy the nine days where you can get lots of free 'milich' from the overstocked schools in your area. Dont forget the BBQ on friday. If you not too 'ois'gehhingered' eat the fish otherwise make shabbos at 1 PM so you can fress some real toiamehoo BBQ.
They do not have to hang around in Shuls especially ones like R. Teitelbaums Zatzal shul where he was ah real ish Chesed and fed all kinds. The fact that a established yungerman who learned in Kailel for many years started saying a daf yomi shiur in a few shuls in the area sometimes without advance notice hasnt stopped peeing you off to no end. When he accepted a small rabonus to help and guide thirsty Jews, you really went off the deep end.
https://crownheights.info/jewish-news/710705/covid-19-exposure-in-miami-after-man-tests-positive-but-continues-attending-minyanim/
The Mishpoocheh keeps growing for a non existent guy.
So does the Jook in Kup.
Joey until the day he dropped dead
Didn't Joey get wacked when he wanted a plot "dortehn" ???
more respect for the needy coming there
No one ever accused you of not spending enough time to surf the right addresses.(at the library - too cheap to buy a computer)
@ Kosher Nostra: It's true. Whenever Rav Eisen detects he is talking to a ben Torah, he very diplomatically, but very clearly, steers people away from certain stores and certain foods.
This makes him very unlike the fakers at other hashgochos that are getting into it rosham verubam & beyadayim, to encourage eating of anything that their bosses deviously insist is "kosher".
I thiught I was losing deh gantze Yerishah.
Because after 35 or so years Paulie clients are suing the Paulie ‘lovers’ and there will nothing left for me.
I’ll have get on line behind CooGardneh to get some Chesed on Leffers if the BBQ guy lozt epes ibeh.
But now that CooGardneh enlightened the velt even more about my mishpoocheh i have a shot on getting some leftover crumbs after another 36 years of waiting.
A public enemy of the Queens Vaad whose name has been mentioned once in a blue moon on this site (in this post I assign him the pseudonym "Arnie"), had an amusing hang up that Chaim Schwartz is auto-possul altz his previous employer KVH had Conservative rabbi members. Arnie was kinda isolated from not being all there so his campaigns to publicize Queens Vaad kashrus scandals (at least some of which he was correct about) didn't gain as much traction as he'd liked.
Arnie chased Menahel Rabbi Gewirtz around Bais Yaakov Queens, complaining the school kitchen isn't kosher. The rabbi would just run from him. There's indeed a complicated situation at BYQ in kashrus with problematic items served. It stems from a terrible conflict of interest. The school money guy Noble, who's notorious as biggest kamtzan on tuition breaks at any yeshiva, even for kollel yungerleit, is also the caterer. Of course he'll source whatever supplies cost him less. When parents more sane than Arnie approached Gewirtz, he'd cop out & tell them take it up with Noble. Any kollel guy who wanted a tuition break was of course terrified of retaliation from Noble. And those who paid full pointed out if Noble doesn't answer to anyone, what's the point head butting with him? It's not like Noble didn't know what he's doing to enhance his personal profit. Chofetz Chaim yeshiva yungerleit abhor Noble because he completely dismisses their roshei yeshiva when they call to beg for kollel breaks. In CC yeshiva's world, ignoring their rabbonim is apikorsis. So they angrily quote Rav Belsky calling Noble a "meshugenna".
It's really despicable what kind of lows the Queens Vaad sinks to when targeting their enemies, some of whom never did anything wrong, including what Queens Vaad figures falsely accuse them of. Not just Schwartz & his nebichel mechanef from the big hashgocho, but also Bryks, and going up to the top to Sokoloff & Schonfeld.
Though the Queens Vaad despised Arnie, they still tried using him as a tool to attack others, knowing it was easy to rile up & unleash Arnie who's not playing with a full deck. Arnie was lucky BYQ had pity on his daughter because he used to gang up on little girls (even not daughters of Queens Vaad enemies) who he imagined were a "bad hashpoah" & called the parent body to get the little girls blackballed. Parents had to ask BYQ to shield their daughters from Arnie, including the parents of a sweet little girl from Hillside Ave who never hurt a fly. Though many perceived Arnie as a harmless comic character, he was ferocious when upset. He'd sometimes publicly dray zich in the street wearing only a loose fitting bathrobe & nothing else underneath! What better candidate than him for Queens Vaad gangsters to use & sic on people? Not clear exactly how many of the gangsters sent Arnie, but he once accosted a married woman with her toddler in the streets of Kew Gardens. Apart from the robe not completely covering his Adam Harishon mode, Arnie needled the woman & baby like a raging maniac, screaming names of Queens Vaad figures, not naming others, and made it known they were blackmailing him to carry out the attack. At the time, Arnie had been huffing around Rav Teitelbaum's that he was in or going to be in a din Torah with Chaim Schwartz & that he was angry that Schwartz accused him of leaking the humiliating story vos er fresst every erev Shabbos bashuk bbqs. Whoever leaked it on Schwartz knew too many details. It had to be one of Schwartz's fellow fressers or someone not invited watching from his window.
It's such a "good" feeling Kew Gardens is "blessed" with such "mature" individuals in "leadership" positions.
Well said.
Teitelbaum’s shul and his people earned its members with their Rosh Hakool being none other then CooGardneh - the most normal in the gang other then Rav Teitelbaum. Nebach he yarshened a A-1 Kehillah.
The Bais Yaakov’s and Yeshivah administration ate mostly not from the immediate area thus the disregard of the hanhalahs in the schools are not Meshibed to the vildeh Teitelbaum crowd.
The Rosh HaKool is a bissel oongezetzed about this and he keeps venting and releasing steam in the Queens Rabbonim in general and at the local Rabbonim in more detail . The Rabbonim won’t respond to him so that his hartz Zahl nisht plotzen c”v.
His other vent is to molest all who come his way and blame it on others using his shitef Paulie.
Well said.
Teitelbaum’s shul and his people earned its members with their Rosh Hakool being none other then CooGardneh - the most normal in the gang other then Rav Teitelbaum. Nebach he yarshened a A-1 Kehillah.
The Bais Yaakov’s and Yeshivah administration ate mostly not from the immediate area thus the disregard of the hanhalahs in the schools are not Meshibed to the vildeh Teitelbaum crowd.
The Rosh HaKool is a bissel oongezetzed about this and he keeps venting and releasing steam in the Queens Rabbonim in general and at the local Rabbonim in more detail . The Rabbonim won’t respond to him so that his hartz Zahl nisht plotzen c”v.
His other vent is to molest all who come his way and blame it on others using his shitef Paulie.
Who is the big mouth baredding Rav Teitelbaum's shul? Maybe the big mouth's father was the long time VP of Bais Yaakov in spite of the disgrace of being a convicted crook. And who cares if Schwartz learned in kollel for many years & can therefore fill in as maggid shiur. That makes it an even bigger tayna that he cheats with kashrus. Speaking of Joey, he told half of KG that the Bostoner didn't want Schwartz giving a shiur there, regardless of Schwartz's title of Rosh Agudas Yisroel of New England. Some title! Probably stretches to one & a half people outside Bier's kollel.
The jealous CooGardneh who couldn’t lead a mishnayos group never mind a daf yomi even reading it from Soncino Talmud Vehr reht noch from a Artscroll even the English version.
Ah poieh who couldn’t even apply to any secular Boston Acadamy let alone the Lakewood Kollel.
And this is the ‘Bar Kamtzahnik’ criticizing Rabbonim in general and the local establishment in particular.
About such current Bar Kamtzaniks we mourn and lament Aichah.
Sun Jul 26, 10:45:00 PM 2020
Can't believe you actually looked in mirror while posting.....
B'H the KAY understands very well who the koocooricoo like the Krankeh Neshoomeh is.
They even look the other way when he is not makeer toiveh that they let him in there without membership and give him a almost oiben oon mookim.
But that still does not justify the venum you spew on their real members and those that give shi'eerim and do other chores.
there were complaints about noble being too tough with kollel families so one day bernie shafran told him to behave
the only change while noble continued the same behavior was he starting talking in monotone instead of talking in tough tone
noble might have some kind of arrangement with the board that he gets to keep a percentage of how much tuition he pulls in because him parting with one cent is koshe kekriyas yam suf
just tell your girls not to eat the worm filled fish sticks and other infested items by lunch so that noble can dance his hora that he profited a few extra dollars
Just send then to public school now.
Why wait until your girls won’t have a Jewish education nor a secular education.
Your not happy with your shul.
Your not happy with your schools
Your not happy with your Rabbi.
Your not happy with the food they serve you.
Your just not a happy person.
Feel sorry for your family if you have one.
Pro-toyeva Arabs manufacturing techina under Edah hashgocho
https://www.timesofisrael.com/tahini-maker-hit-with-arab-israeli-boycott-over-support-for-gays-sees-sales-rise/
http://www.alarz.co.il/en/images/kosher.png
Rabbi Reisman didn’t hold from the vaad. He frequently and publicly mocked its hashgacha. So if he says the new hechsher is as good as the vaad - he’s making fools of all of us.
Reisman and Eisen are both great orators.
And they claim to be the biggest Kashrus mumchim.
Good pair. On different fronts.
When did Rabbi Reisman come back into the picture?
Yudel you talk alot about different hashgochas.What are your credentials. Lets take some vegis and see how you do with the shmattah test . what strength loop do you use?
All I hear from you is complaints about ALL JEWS. Why not go to a mosque and leave the real yidden alone.
I promise you you wont be missed by anyone !!!!
Here goes Yanky the OU - West Side F guy with his new and improved trying to belittle Rabbi Shain.
Listen to R Shains Podcasts on Kashrus And you will see has Knowledge of the Kashrus Industry
Did anyone hear the recording where Rabbi Flaum blasted the Vaad for putting down the new Kashrus agency?
Where is the Rabbi Flaum recording?
https://shows.acast.com/kashrus-anytime/episodes/5-town-vaad-post-mehadrin-1
That sharfeh zog from R' Zelig Epstein zl says it all!
And he obviously saw right through the local Modern Orthodox rabbis in charge propping up Chaim Schwartz as the 'yeshivishe' front to dupe everyone.
Why did Reb Zelig’s zoog only appear AFTER he’s gone??
When he was alive no one heard or knew about this.
No further comment needed....
R' Zelig zl told people things all the time that were not meant to be publicly broadcast.
In one case where a known gangster didn't like that R' Zelig had poskened on an avlah he did, he ran down to the rosh yeshiva's house in Flatbush to harass & intimidate him. R' Zelig was well into his 80s at that time and said he is an elter Yid who cannot handle this gangster, so he gave it over to a rov who is much younger & very tough.
Can you imagine if R' Yudel would have been mefarsem this while R' Zelig was still alive? He would have been attacked by all the gangsters on the Queens Vaad who would be terrified of taking a financial hit from being exposed as the frauds that they are. Some would attack right away, like probably the Schonfelds and some of the Left Wing Modern Orthodox rabbis who hate all Charedi Yidden. Then there would be the nudniks who would keep trying to get in to argue shtussim in an attempt to change the rosh yeshiva's mind. Which when they wouldn't be matzliach they would start attacking & saying chutzpadik things to belittle the rosh yeshiva. This next group would likely include Elchonon Zohyna & Chaim Schwartz. There's too much at stake for these lowlives. Zohyna with his millions in shvartz profit from stealing kivrei yesomim and Schwartz with his "living wage or bust" obsession.
https://www.thejc.com/community/community-news/kashrut-authority-warns-caterers-ensure-simchahs-comply-with-covid-safety-rules-1.502019
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/08/02/blm-demands-cut-louisville-businesses-profits-protection/
Did you ever hear the one about the poor guy selling matzaivos who thought it might be good for business to have Queens Vaad hashgocho? He practically fainted when the GREEDY Vaad quoted him an astronomical sum!
Mon Aug 03, 01:11:00 AM 2020
They do need lots of money to pay that mafia guy who killed.....
You know those plots they needed for the Russians with the pictures on them.
And to use for those poor poor CooGardnehs....
They still owe him.
Sun Aug 02, 10:13:00 PM 2020
This Comment was preapproved by Reb Zelig Before he was niftar.....
Yours truly,
Kevod Kedishas CooGardneh Shlit'a
What a Chootzpah of this Bum. The only limud Zechut is: He's ah Krakeh Neshoomeh
"R' Zelig zl told people things all the time that were not meant to be publicly broadcast."
So why is it broadcast now ? Because he can't say anything now ?
why would he take you up on your challenge to find bugs on a shmatta? here is nothing wrong with bugs on a shmatta, as long as you are not eating them, so its a meaningless exercize. Why won't you challenge him to find the bugs on an EDIBLE FOOD???
Kashrus is not the only thing that is krum at Bais Yaakov Queens
Board member Charles Edouard Gros gave $50,000 to fund the "Yoetzet Halacha" farce at Riverdale Jewish Center just before menuvol Jonathan Rosenblatt was forced out as rabbi.
One of the way greens are checked is they are washed in soapy water, the water is poured through a filter cloth, and the cloth is checked for bugs. If no bus are found, the food can be eaten (This will obviously only work for bugs that wash off).
So is the challenge to find bugs on a shmatta already full of bugs provided by ys or is the challenge for the Administrator to go through the process you described, soak and then check his own shmatta?
I’m sending to public school
So eve there nothing is krum.
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